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Title: Guys, It's The Right To Lifer Aspect That Makes Palin So Palatable Post by: Cass on August 30, 2008, 03:53:40 PM The Wall Street Journal gave a really famous anti-abortionist space to rave on about Palin's anti-abortion stand and even praised her choice to recently give birth to her 5th
child a Down's Syndrome boy that many might have aborted. Jill Stanek a rabid right to lifer did a column. And here from Stanek's website is her statement about McCain's fabulous choice. http://www.jillstanek.com/archives/2008/08/mccain_picks_pa.html But, before those who join McCain, Palin and Stanek in their views, Stanek is a bit extremist. That may be the understatement of the day. She's a columist for Joe Farah's World Net Daily and also has a website. This one is a doozy. If you can handle this one, would you want Stanek in your political corner for the campaign? April 9, 2007 Sweet and Sour Fetus: Chinese cannibalism The following, if true, is what abortion and the dehumanization of preborn babies has wrought. It is the most despicable outcome of abortion I have ever seen or reported. Yet, if one is "pro-choice" and denies that preborn humans are human, there is nothing wrong with this whatsoever. It can't even be considered cannibalism. Reported The Epoch Times on March 29.... [Article and video on page 2] The Next Magazine, a weekly publication from Hong Kong, reported that infant corpses and fetuses have become the newest supplements for health and beauty in China. Not only is the placenta considered a beauty remedy, but also aborted fetuses are much sought after delicacies. In Guangdong, gourmet body parts are in high demand and can even be purchased through hospitals. The magazine's investigations into this form of cannibalism took them to Liaoning province. It continues if you can take it. It appears Stanek is also a favorite of O'Liely with a video on the same page of her website. http://www.jillstanek.com/archives/2007/04/sweet_and_sour.html Stanek appears to have some sort of cannibalism fetish. But from WND, if you support stem cell research like Nancy Reagan and Michael Fox, you may be a cannibal too according to John and Sarah's new best buddy. Michael J. Fox is a cannibal Posted: October 20, 2004 1:00 am Eastern By Jill Stanek © 2008 WorldNetDaily.com Michael J. Fox is a famous TV and movie star. He is witty. He is charming. A few years ago, we learned he has Parkinson's disease. PD is a slowly progressive neurological disorder, characterized by tremors, shuffling gait, a masklike facial expression, "pill rolling" of the fingers, drooling, intolerance to heat, oily skin, emotional instability and defective judgment (although intelligence is rarely impaired). http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41010 Apology I can't access the WSJ as I'm not a subscriber, but if you are you can check out Stanek there too. Wonder if Rupert's editors ever read the real Stanek? Title: Re: Guys, It's The Right To Lifer Aspect That Makes Palin So Palatable Post by: Cass on August 31, 2008, 04:24:23 PM Though I shouldn't be I'm always amused at how little interest the topic of birth control and abortion draw on this male dominated forum. Not your problem guy? She'll take care of it. Not if it is no longer available and that has been a major political goal since the advent and before of Reaganite's hero. Sort of like that commercial about paying now or paying later. Maybe those on this forum are celibate? I doubt that, but then without reliable contraception and the availability of abortion, think about all that resented child support that could become yours.
The Youtube is Huckabee, but Palin agrees. Political Wire: Palin Opposes Birth Control For Married Couples Del Ali, president of the nonpartisan research firm Research 2000, authors a guest post for Taegan Goddard's Political Wire arguing that Sarah Palin may prove to be the worst pick ever in modern presidential politics. If this is true, Ali is right: In fact, as Palin's cultural views become better known -- she oppose abortion in all cases and opposes the use of birth control pills and condoms even among married couples -- she will undoubtedly scare the hell out of the soccer moms and 98% of Hillary voters. Update: I inadvertantly left the direct link off the original post. It's now been added. Update 2: As noted in the comments, I very specifically used the words "if this is true" because this is a hard thing to believe. But if you think it's impossible, just take a look at what Mike Huckabee has to say about the pill (I think he's okay with condoms): Patton understands this one, but so long as there is an (R) beside the name it appears to make no difference. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHMxEQ7hQp4 http://www.jedreport.com/2008/08/political-wire-palin-opposes-b.html Title: Re: Guys, It's The Right To Lifer Aspect That Makes Palin So Palatable Post by: illy on August 31, 2008, 07:37:40 PM Though I shouldn't be I'm always amused at how little interest the topic of birth control and abortion draw on this male dominated forum. Not your problem guy?
That's pretty sexist if you ask me. In fact we have had a few discussions on abortion. This one (http://www.itsallpolitics.com/forum/index.php?topic=451.0) reached 16 pages. I think you're right though about the right to life aspect being what makes Palin seem a good choice to the McCain campaign. She is to McCain's problems with the religious right what Biden is to Obama's problems with moderates regarding foreign policy. IMO, this was most likely seen as a necessary element by McCain's strategists, probably more so than the fact that she's a woman. If they were looking to pick up Clinton supporters they probably wouldn't have gone with someone who thinks rape victims should be forced to bear their attacker's child to term. Title: Re: Guys, It's The Right To Lifer Aspect That Makes Palin So Palatable Post by: gomper7 on September 01, 2008, 08:45:43 AM Political Wire: Palin Opposes Birth Control For Married Couples I have googled and cannot for the life of me find anything to back this statement up. This appears to be pure and raw political slander. It is refreshing to see actually, usually such things are hidden better and harder to debunk. Anyway, I did find several sources that indicate that while Palin is anti-abortion, she is in favor of contraceptives, I will post the link from CNA, Caholic News Agency, as this is a source that where they to find her actually opposed to contraceptives she would be "in their camp" so to speak. http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=13670 (http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=13670) and for good measure, one from ontheissues... http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Sarah_Palin_Abortion.htm (http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Sarah_Palin_Abortion.htm) Title: Re: Guys, It's The Right To Lifer Aspect That Makes Palin So Palatable Post by: Crystal on September 01, 2008, 10:22:40 AM Abortion is an important issue, however, it is not the only issue in this election. This is just more scare tactics to vote against McCain/Palin based on their right to life views. Even if Roe V. Wade were overturned, the abortion issues would then be handed to each state to decide. And plenty of states would still allow abortion. We can't pick a president based on abortion rights alone. As hard as that is to say (since I am still able to decide to have children or not have them) I believe there are more important things to consider at this point.
Title: Re: Guys, It's The Right To Lifer Aspect That Makes Palin So Palatable Post by: IamMe on September 01, 2008, 01:30:17 PM Cass, can I just say, I object to the way you made this a male/female issue.
Title: Re: Guys, It's The Right To Lifer Aspect That Makes Palin So Palatable Post by: Patton on September 01, 2008, 03:33:28 PM She's done this Abortion scare stuff before......as stale now as it was then.
Title: Re: Guys, It's The Right To Lifer Aspect That Makes Palin So Palatable Post by: gommi on September 01, 2008, 05:43:59 PM Palin may be able to afford a fifth child on her state salary, however not everyone can. To condemn abortion completely presents a very simplistic view.
Title: Re: Guys, It's The Right To Lifer Aspect That Makes Palin So Palatable Post by: gomper7 on September 01, 2008, 10:04:58 PM Palin may be able to afford a fifth child on her state salary, however not everyone can. To condemn abortion completely presents a very simplistic view. well, of course it does. It represents the simple view that an unborn child is a human being. If you accept that a fetus is a human being, then it is really simple to condemn killing one, and economic factors do not enter into it. If they did, it would be ok to kill your 2 year old if your economic conditions changed such that you were unable to care for it. But we do not allow that in our society because we all agree at 2 a child is a human being.
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