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yea.. umm wow...

WTF is going on.. is Palin that good?

Print E-mail September 7, 2008
Gallup Daily: McCain Moves Ahead, 48% to 45%McCain enjoying increase in support following conventionUSA Election 2008 Gallup Daily Americas Northern America PRINCETON, NJ -- The latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking update shows John McCain moving ahead of Barack Obama, 48% to 45%, when registered voters are asked for whom they would vote if the presidential election were held today.

(http://media.gallup.com/poll/graphs/080907DailyUpdateGraph1_s4m7a9.gif)

I am getting worried here....

How come Obama cant put this old man away!! I mean come on he is the one we have been waiting for... the one that god himself has chosen to be the messiah!

 How about we look at the one that counts Bonzo.  (http://tbn4-beta.google.com/images?q=tbn:wBcNogiJWnueRM:http://www.bigstockphoto.com/thumbs/4/3/2/large/234631.jpg) http://www.270towin.com/

The only one saying that is stupid Republicans who need to keep pumping crap. The only one calling him the 'Messiah' is you guys. You're cynical about it but that's hilarious in light of the fact you think Bush will be the 'best President history has known". lol.

For anyone interested here's a better set of polls;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/629/629/7360265.stm

Ahk

AHK,

You just listed teh GALLOP poll from 4 days ago.. I listed the one from today....

That the point Obama went from 50-42 Ie. +8 to 45-48 Ie. -3

THE SAME POLL YOU LINKED AS A GOOD POLL... Just because it says BBC does not mean it not the GALLP poll...

Jeeze.

Check Realclearpolitics for all teh real major polls...

Right now the average of all pollh as Obama usp 0.8% 

Palin is all over the news. Either in a positive or negative light.  Good news about Obama is running out.

Fixed.

 ;)

give it time

until then

(http://craphound.com/images/2008-09-03-NotVettingSarahPalin.jpg)

No I listed 4 polls.


Ditto.

YOU LISTED 4 POLLS FROM LAST WEEK......

heh...

Ok as of THIS MORNING the average of all polls at RealClearPolitics, which tkes all polls and averages them has McCain up 1.5%

Yeah? So? lol. :)

Yea!!!! Go McCain!! Down with America! Helter Skelter baby!!! Long live the lies!! Long live the incompetence!! Burn the constitution!


lol. You know Reaganite, if the Democrat motto is, "Anyone but McCain", then the Republican motto is obviously, "Suicide before Democrat!"



Ahk

let me get this right I correct your obvious mistake where you want to show polls that are outadated and try to pass them as accurate and you attack me?

Jeeze.. calm down.

Remember I am voting for Obama...

Btw as of RIGHT now... as in TODAY McCain is up by 1.5% @ realclearpolitics.  which is an average of all the major polls.

The state polls ara not in yet but its clear that based on the national numbers McCain will shore up virginia, fla, Ohio, ND, NV, and Co in them and will take the delegate lead.

It wasn't an attack dude. I know Ive been cranky so I dont blame you for thinking that but this...
in response to this...
...was actually supposed to be me being sarcastic and joking with you: I concede the poll was out of date.


Just sayin',
Ahk

ok .. I get it now...

Btw USA today has McCain up 10 pts.

(http://media.gallup.com/poll/graphs/election2008_HP_1.gif)

The wheels are falling off thr Obama Bush from running over too many people.

Ouch the RCP has it McCain up 3.2%

hrmmm

WTF!!

I don't understand how any single sane person in america would vote for Mc Cain...
Somebody please explain...

lol... yeap tahts call MDS....

Just because the media told you Obama had this wrapped up when he beat clinton does not make it true...

Same with them telling you there was no way BUSH could beat Kerry... or Bush Beating Gore...

Electorial votes from RCP...

Obama/Biden 273    McCain/Palin 265  Based on polls...


With no toss up states based on polls up to FRIDAY 09/05 Link - realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/?map=10

Take out CO from Obama who has a .40 lead there and give it to McCain and it will be Obama/Biden 264    McCain/Palin 274   

btw Colrado when for Bush by 8 pts the last two elections...

Wrong politician. It's Palin who is on record as believing that God is personally intervening to grease her lying way to office, not Obama.

As far as the polls go, this is the post-convention bounce. We'll get a better idea in a week or two.

See, for example: http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/09/todays-polls-97_08.html

1) They are rich and greedy, and are salivating at the massive tax cuts he'll lock in and the additional ones he's promised.
2) They are religious fundamentalists who believe things like women should no longer be able to decide for themselves if they will carry a child to term, and that the world was created 10,000 years ago and God is personally involved in everyday lives like when one scores a touchdown or runs for Vice President--so worring about things like the environment is silly.
3) They think beligerence and machismo is the best approach to foreign policy.
4) They believe that the last 8 years were bad, and the best way to effect change is by electing a man of the same party that was in power and who voted with Bush 90 percent of the time.
5) They don't want to vote for a man who is an elitist. So they'll vote instead for the guy who can't remember how many houses he owns. That he visits in his private jet.
6) They don't care about the health care crisis, because heaven knows, McCain isn't going to do squat about that.

Does that help at all?

THEY HAVE NOT UPDATED THE NUMBERS SINCE AUGUST!  they just updated teh date but used OLD polls... lol funny stuff. 

Nice site if you are PRO Obama.  RCP takes real polls updated daily and averages them out.   is that biased?

Electoral-vote.cvom (which this blog quotes) has not updated state polls in nearly 2-3 weeks. 

I should have been more explicit. The link goes to an article which examines the affect of convention bounces, which was pertinent to the point I made in the post. I wasn't referring to the numbers the site has posted.

Their previous days' post said the following:

Still think it's biased?

why are you looking for other sites and polls...

realclearpolitics.com shows all the polls and even has most political stories linked.

It has the electorial college with polls for each state averaged as they are released.

Right now Obama has the lead but CO shoudl turn to McCain this week and Obama will then be short.

Its funny how this election may hinge on COLORADO... wierd as it may be.

Because if you don't your a treasonous liberal who aids terrorists and kills babies.

Gee, thanks for the great tip. I wonder where you heard of it...?

Posted by me on August 23rd, 2008.
http://www.itsallpolitics.com/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,26/topic,2657.msg62791/#msg62791

I also like pollster.com and fivethirtyeight.com.

Gee, thanks for the great tip. I wonder where you heard of realclearpolitics.com? Could it have been my post from August 23rd?


Here's another good source which combines polls: http://www.pollster.com/

They generate electoral maps using this method:

Maybe the Obama will have to play rougher. Maybe they'll actually begin calling the McCain camp on their outrageous lies:

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/new_obama_ad_palins_bridgetono.php

In general, I'd say being tied or slightly behind McCain in the popular vote, while remaining ahead in the electoral college when McCain's post-convention boost is at its maximum is a very good place for Obama to be.

I would say that when one looks at the internals of the polls, Obama must be getting VERY nervous. Momentum isn't going his way.

A president with a 30% approval rating, a sem niminee that be campaigning for 18 months and has a huge cash advantage.  A 72 year old guy who said the economy is not he strong point.

The MSM on his jock strap and giving him 70\30 coverage, and a rock star run through the middle east an europe.

This should ahve been locked up by now and teh fact McCain is still in it meand Obama is very weak.

I think McCain is going to pull this out and that makes me sick,.

Only in your wettest dreams will McCain pull it out.

that is so wrong, on so many levels...

A momentum check following on the heels of the GOP convention? Gee, that's a hard one...

I am curious how long should we just call it a momentum bouce from the convention?

Until after the first night of the debates

Assuming you're sincere (I know, I never learn), here is a sincere answer:

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/09/patience-poll-watchers.html