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Title: Scientologists charged with fraud in France Post by: Fredledingue on September 08, 2008, 11:40:40 AM Good. We don't need sects or fake religions here.
I'm all for sucking them dry, then kick them out of business. Not only scientologist but any sect or wannabe messiah, guru, astrologue, imams, fortune tellers, faith heelers, tv-predicators etc Quote from: Thierry Leveque, PARIS (Reuters) A French judge has ordered two departments and seven prominent members of the Church of Scientology in France to stand trial on charges of organized fraud, a judicial source said on Monday. The case is the latest in a series of legal battles that have pitted the French judicial system against the Scientologists, who could be forced to stop their activities in France if found guilty. The latest suit centers on a complaint made in 1998 by a woman who said she was enrolled into the Church of Scientology by a group of people she met outside a metro station. In the following months, she said she paid 140,000 francs (21,340 euros) for "purification packs" and books which she said were a fraud. Other complaints then surfaced, prolonging the investigation. .... full article (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080908/wl_nm/france_scientology_dc;_ylt=AvBZcWHuVCpp5QvfYBkGiEdm.3QA) Title: Re: Scientologists charged with fraud in France Post by: Ahkenaten on September 08, 2008, 01:42:49 PM The real crime is Hubbard never got to make a dime off his idea :)
Title: Re: Scientologists charged with fraud in France Post by: mdma on September 08, 2008, 08:31:04 PM Good. We don't need sects or fake religions here. then you must be atheists,,, just don't make it like with Jews that you never wanted too. Title: Re: Scientologists charged with fraud in France Post by: Biker Dude on September 09, 2008, 04:53:03 AM I love scientology. Their belief system makes good Sci-Fi reading.
Title: Re: Scientologists charged with fraud in France Post by: mdma on September 09, 2008, 07:46:05 AM I wouldn't know who they are without South Park.
Title: Re: Scientologists charged with fraud in France Post by: Gojira on September 09, 2008, 10:50:12 AM Shouldn't people have the right to choose whatever religion they want?
How could the government shield people from making stupid decisions? I think Scientology is as stupid as the next one, and maybe if these Scientologists coerced people into buying their crap, then there is a case. But, whats not to allow the same jurisprudence extend to the major religions? Title: Re: Scientologists charged with fraud in France Post by: illy on September 11, 2008, 10:08:13 PM In the following months, she said she paid 140,000 francs (21,340 euros) for "purification packs" and books which she said were a fraud. Other complaints then surfaced, prolonging the investigation.
I can't say that I have a lot of pity for this woman. This isn't exactly a new scam, around 500 years ago the catholic church was selling indulgences. She should have seen it coming. How exactly is a book a fraud, in the legal sense? Unless she did not actually receive her books, I don't see a case for it. My guess is that the books are bogus, but do we really want to start charging writers/booksellers with crimes for writing/selling shitty books? Sounds a bit extreme. Besides the fact that the state should not have the right to ban religions it sees as false, so what?. What difference does it make to the rest of us if someone is foolish enough to spend their money on 'purification packs'. So she wasn't happy with her religious literature and bath salts or w/e they sold her. I see no more reason for this to tie up the legal system anymore than when people buy cheap plastic merchandise and are shocked when it breaks soon after they buy it. Title: Re: Scientologists charged with fraud in France Post by: IamMe on September 12, 2008, 11:08:53 AM In the following months, she said she paid 140,000 francs (21,340 euros) for "purification packs" and books which she said were a fraud. Other complaints then surfaced, prolonging the investigation. I can't say that I have a lot of pity for this woman. This isn't exactly a new scam, around 500 years ago the catholic church was selling indulgences. She should have seen it coming. How exactly is a book a fraud, in the legal sense? Unless she did not actually receive her books, I don't see a case for it. My guess is that the books are bogus, but do we really want to start charging writers/booksellers with crimes for writing/selling shitty books? Sounds a bit extreme. Besides the fact that the state should not have the right to ban religions it sees as false, so what?. What difference does it make to the rest of us if someone is foolish enough to spend their money on 'purification packs'. So she wasn't happy with her religious literature and bath salts or w/e they sold her. I see no more reason for this to tie up the legal system anymore than when people buy cheap plastic merchandise and are shocked when it breaks soon after they buy it. I agree. Title: Re: Scientologists charged with fraud in France Post by: mdma on September 12, 2008, 11:36:28 AM Catholic or any other churches still doing that but in more advanced forms. Point is if Scientology is found as fraud which i fully agree with then Christianity, Judaism, Islam and rest or religions are fraud.
Title: Re: Scientologists charged with fraud in France Post by: Totino on September 21, 2008, 06:56:41 PM Shouldn't people have the right to choose whatever religion they want? Agreed 100%How could the government shield people from making stupid decisions? I think Scientology is as stupid as the next one, and maybe if these Scientologists coerced people into buying their crap, then there is a case. But, whats not to allow the same jurisprudence extend to the major religions? Title: Re: Scientologists charged with fraud in France Post by: Fredledingue on January 03, 2009, 02:12:29 PM Catholic or any other churches still doing that but in more advanced forms. Point is if Scientology is found as fraud which i fully agree with then Christianity, Judaism, Islam and rest or religions are fraud. A religion is not a fraud in itself. An activity or a practice can be a fraud.
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