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Title: CERN Post by: Gojira on September 10, 2008, 08:12:49 AM I was actually quite lucky to have insomnia last night and be able to catch live the first phase of powering up the accelerator and then celebration. Thank god this was able to get underway after that stupid black hole scare. But man, isn't this exciting? What do you guys think they might find? Nothing at all? I hope not. At least let us get to see some dark matter. But people are talking about alternate dimensions? Its fun to imagine what could happen after the real tests go down this fall.
Quote Scientists Activate Particle Collider By DENNIS OVERBYE Published: September 10, 2008 BATAVIA, ILL. — Science rode a beam of subatomic particles and a river of champagne into the future on Wednesday. After 14 years and $8 billion, scientists at the European Center for Nuclear Research, or CERN, outside Geneva, succeeded in turning on the most powerful microscope ever built for investigating the elemental particles and forces of nature. At 4:27 a.m., Eastern time, the protons made their first circuit around a 17-mile-long racetrack known as the Large Hadron Collider, 300 feet underneath the Swiss French border, and then made a return journey. "It’s a fantastic moment," said Lyn Evans, who has been the project director of the collider since its inception. “We can now look forward to a new era of understanding about the origins and evolution of the universe.” An ocean and half a continent away from Geneva, several dozen physicists, journalists, students and just plain citizens gathered here at the Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory, or Fermilab, outside Chicago, to watch the dawn of a new generation in high-energy physics, applauding each milestone of the night as the scientists at CERN slowly wrestled the beam into shape. Many of them, including the lab’s director, Pier Oddone, were wearing pajamas or bathrobes or even night caps bearing Fermilab patches on them. Outside, a half moon was hanging low in a cloudy sky as a reminder that the universe is beautiful and mysterious and that another small step into that mystery was about to be taken. Dr. Oddone lauded the new machine as the result of “two and a half decades of dreams to open up this huge new territory in the exploration of the natural world.” http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/11/science/11collider.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&hp Title: Re: CERN Post by: Cryptomaniac on September 11, 2008, 05:51:07 PM I was actually quite lucky to have insomnia last night and be able to catch live the first phase of powering up the accelerator and then celebration. Thank god this was able to get underway after that stupid black hole scare. But man, isn't this exciting? What do you guys think they might find? Nothing at all? I hope not. At least let us get to see some dark matter. But people are talking about alternate dimensions? Its fun to imagine what could happen after the real tests go down this fall. This is certainly exciting science. I don't know a lick about particle physics, but this is sure to provide humanity with a great deal of new knowledge over the next few decades. The best and brightest are working on this project and hopefully it gets a lot of attention out of the press. I'm not holding my breath though - the press will drop a CERN story as soon as another teen celebrity gets knocked up. I say money well spent - keep the science coming! Title: Re: CERN Post by: Gojira on September 11, 2008, 06:13:59 PM I was actually quite lucky to have insomnia last night and be able to catch live the first phase of powering up the accelerator and then celebration. Thank god this was able to get underway after that stupid black hole scare. But man, isn't this exciting? What do you guys think they might find? Nothing at all? I hope not. At least let us get to see some dark matter. But people are talking about alternate dimensions? Its fun to imagine what could happen after the real tests go down this fall. This is certainly exciting science. I don't know a lick about particle physics, but this is sure to provide humanity with a great deal of new knowledge over the next few decades. The best and brightest are working on this project and hopefully it gets a lot of attention out of the press. I'm not holding my breath though - the press will drop a CERN story as soon as another teen celebrity gets knocked up. I say money well spent - keep the science coming! Its already old news unfortunately until a discovery is made. But there really is no need to monitor it unless your a physicist. I was just excited that finally we are going to see some revolutionary things in our lifetime. Well, of course that is if they find anything. But it is better that sitting and waiting for the actual thing to start up, there is now a high probability that a great finding will occur because scientists now can get to work. Title: Re: CERN Post by: gommi on September 13, 2008, 06:59:33 PM Lets hope for some fantastic discovery. Recreating the conditions of the big bang could provide incredible insight.
Title: Re: CERN Post by: Gojira on September 20, 2008, 10:01:49 AM Uh Oh. Looks like the god won't be found just yet. CERN sprung a leak and should be inoperable for about 2 months.
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/europe/2008/09/2008920135643292414.html Title: Re: CERN Post by: Fredledingue on December 16, 2008, 07:07:54 AM 20 years that the Cern is playing billard with particules and they found nothing applicable. They ade some discoveries worthy of attention for the initiated but they never find anything important historicaly like a law unifying the forces or something. They never came close to find a new form of energy neither.
I don't doubt that it's worht to try even if we find nothing, but I won't put too much hope in the continuation of this project neither. Well maybe it's like the surge in Iraq, a little bit more and it will work, ;) Title: Re: CERN Post by: Gojira on December 16, 2008, 10:34:38 PM I would prefer to put billions into CERN with the possibility of getting nothing rather than putting billions into Iraq and have the possibility of losing everything.
Title: Re: CERN Post by: mdma on December 16, 2008, 11:09:20 PM You can combine both pleasures by building a CERN atop of Iraq.
Title: Re: CERN Post by: Fredledingue on December 22, 2008, 11:24:50 AM I would prefer to put billions into CERN with the possibility of getting nothing rather than putting billions into Iraq and have the possibility of losing everything. Absolutely right! mdma is right too: US and EU should have teamed up to dig it under the Iran-Iraq border. Ironicaly the cyclotron crosses the French-Swiss border --> I wonder how much money they smuggled to Switzerland that way :D Title: Re: CERN Post by: Gojira on December 22, 2008, 12:08:47 PM I would prefer to put billions into CERN with the possibility of getting nothing rather than putting billions into Iraq and have the possibility of losing everything. Absolutely right! mdma is right too: US and EU should have teamed up to dig it under the Iran-Iraq border. Ironicaly the cyclotron crosses the French-Swiss border --> I wonder how much money they smuggled to Switzerland that way :D Shaky morals always pay when done in the name of science. ;D Unless of course...uh, yeah, never mind. :)
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