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Title: Finaly an Israeli leader says something diffirent Post by: Fredledingue on September 29, 2008, 10:15:35 AM It's the first time I read something so radicaly pro-peace from an Israeli minister.
Quote from: Ehud Olmert Israel should withdraw from nearly all territory captured in the 1967 Middle East war in return for peace with the Palestinians and Syria .... (I am saying) what no previous Israeli leader has ever said: we should withdraw from almost all of the territories, including in East Jerusalem and in the Golan Heights," And, yeah, too bad he says so days before he quit the governement because he was sacked. Quote from: Palestinian Foreign Minister Riyad al-Malki We wish we had heard this personal opinion ... (before) he resigned. It is a very important commitment but it came so late. We wish this commitment can be fulfilled by the (next) Israeli government. link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080929/wl_nm/us_palestinians_israel;_ylt=AkKXZsnEy5fyA_Wfcw2W75hm.3QA) Title: Re: Finaly an Israeli leader says something diffirent Post by: mdma on September 29, 2008, 10:41:36 AM Like his opinion meant something before he resigned.
Title: Re: Finaly an Israeli leader says something diffirent Post by: Fredledingue on September 29, 2008, 07:44:44 PM At least some poeple read/hear his opinion.
Unlike mine here on this forum... ;) Title: Re: Finaly an Israeli leader says something diffirent Post by: mdma on September 29, 2008, 09:42:55 PM What stops you from becoming Israeli PM? You look pretty Jewish to me, work a bit on your French accent and you are fit. Like anyone else who have no idea how to lead a country but still wants to try.
Title: Re: Finaly an Israeli leader says something diffirent Post by: Fredledingue on September 30, 2008, 12:16:15 PM Sure, I'm going to try. A little easthetical chirurgy to reshape my nostrils and get thicker lips and I could pass for a real jew.
I should create myself a funny name too. :D (http://www.onlineartstudio.co.uk/a/1/gal/108_06-500194.jpg) Title: Re: Finaly an Israeli leader says something diffirent Post by: mdma on September 30, 2008, 09:45:36 PM Was it an attempt to make a fun of a Jew looks ? I wouldn't do that if i were you.
Title: Re: Finaly an Israeli leader says something diffirent Post by: Ahkenaten on October 01, 2008, 06:54:33 AM yeah well that's problematic when you already get away with so much here yourself md
Title: Re: Finaly an Israeli leader says something diffirent Post by: mdma on October 01, 2008, 08:27:59 AM i haven't meant the way he acts.
Title: Re: Finaly an Israeli leader says something diffirent Post by: Fredledingue on October 01, 2008, 12:56:36 PM mdma, yourself suggested that I was already almost jewish by mind. Just remains the physical part of my personality to be 100% jewish.
Because I don't realy look like a jew. I was not making fun. I was talking very seriousely. :D Title: Re: Finaly an Israeli leader says something diffirent Post by: mdma on October 01, 2008, 09:47:14 PM you are looking like a Jew, i've seen your picture and there are plenty of Jews who look just like you.
Title: Re: Finaly an Israeli leader says something diffirent Post by: Dayan on October 02, 2008, 04:45:15 AM "Gérard Depardieu: The 54-year-old French film star converted to Islam, but later converted back. He also experimented with Buddhism and the Russian Orthodox Church but says he has now found happiness in his vineyard in Anjou. “I work and keep quiet,” he told French Vogue."
http://www.ilaam.net/Opinions/AllahCameKnocking.html He did not try Judaism, yet. Title: Re: Finaly an Israeli leader says something diffirent Post by: Dayan on October 02, 2008, 04:46:33 AM you are looking like a Jew, i've seen your picture and there are plenty of Jews who look just like you. I second that. I have seen many Catholics that looked like anyone in the world. Title: Re: Finaly an Israeli leader says something diffirent Post by: Fredledingue on October 02, 2008, 11:41:14 AM Well,... there are some jews which I met in the real life, who thought I was jewish or, to be more exact (they are jews themselves you know) that I *might* be jewish or who are wondering whether I'm jewish. Yes.
But I'm not the typical "jewish type", had I to be jew, I would be the north european with heavily mixed blood, one. I couldn't pass for the president of Israel, realy. And it's even more surprising that nobody in my family as far as our genialogic tree goes, has ever been jewish... or from another non european christian catholic religion. But you are right, the appearance is not what matters. Look Dayan looks like a typical story-book jew and he is a christian american of armenian descent. :D Title: Re: Finaly an Israeli leader says something diffirent Post by: gommi on October 06, 2008, 01:47:37 PM I was not aware Israel's former prime minister was so progressive in his foreign policy. You normally associate that position with ruthless Zionism.
Maybe I could become the new prime minister. I'm totally Jewish (though not a practicing Jew by any means). Title: The Cycle Post by: Peisithanatos on December 02, 2008, 02:13:01 PM that's the cycle of Israeli politicians. During the election they scream "This is our God-given land, so fck the Arabs! Forget the 1967 boundary!". When in power, they say "Guys, we really have to dismantle some outposts and get out of some areas. But surely, not to the point of the 1967 border". And when they go, they sigh "Eh...What we need is the 1967 border.."
Isn't it cute that OBama is more hawkish on the Jerusalem issue than the former Likudnik Olmert? Olmert says we need to divide it, Obama insists - "undivided capital of Israel". That's because Olmert no longer needs election, and Oh!mama still breathing electoral. During election, folks in Israel and US are always very bellicose towards Palestinians. Election, h.. Title: Re: Finaly an Israeli leader says something diffirent Post by: mdma on December 04, 2008, 09:16:11 AM o'rly ? you lost a bit of your self during your vacation.
Title: Re: Finaly an Israeli leader says something diffirent Post by: Peisithanatos on December 07, 2008, 07:52:41 AM Quote you lost a bit of your self during your vacation. getting used to ukr food again. Title: Re: Finaly an Israeli leader says something diffirent Post by: mdma on December 07, 2008, 10:57:33 AM are you back to Ukr ?
Title: Re: Finaly an Israeli leader says something diffirent Post by: neorealist on December 07, 2008, 11:37:38 AM no more Canada
Title: Re: Finaly an Israeli leader says something diffirent Post by: Peisithanatos on December 11, 2008, 03:22:51 AM I'm in Kharkiv, Ukraine now.
Title: Re: Finaly an Israeli leader says something diffirent Post by: mdma on December 11, 2008, 09:56:51 AM used to live there long time ago.
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