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Title: What goes around... Post by: Abraxas on September 29, 2007, 10:47:18 AM ... comes around.
Quote from: Associated Press Iran Labels CIA 'Terrorist Organization' TEHRAN, Iran (AP) - Iran's parliament on Saturday approved a nonbinding resolution labeling the CIA and the U.S. Army "terrorist organizations," in apparent response to a Senate resolution seeking to give a similar designation to Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. The hard-line dominated parliament cited U.S. involvement in dropping nuclear bombs in Japan in World War II, using depleted uranium munitions in the Balkans, Afghanistan and Iraq, supporting the killings of Palestinians by Israel, bombing and killing Iraqi civilians, and torturing terror suspects in prisons. "The aggressor U.S. Army and the Central Intelligence Agency are terrorists and also nurture terror," said a statement by the 215 lawmakers who signed the resolution at an open session of the Iranian parliament. The session was broadcast live on state-run radio. http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8RV8H100&show_article=1 (http://More...) I mean, I guess it's kind of funny, but I wanted to share this. Also, I guess all those people that say Ahmadinejad wouldn't invite controversal people to speak in HIS country should rethink that mantra. Quote from: Herald Tribune Ahmadinejad: Bush can speak at a university if he should ever travel to Iran TEHRAN, Iran: Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has extended an invitation to U.S. President George W. Bush to speak at an Iranian university if the American leader ever traveled to the Islamic Republic, state-run television reported Friday. As part of his controversial trip to New York, the hardline Iranian leader spoke Monday at Columbia University, where he faced hostile questioning and a combative introduction by the university's president, who said Ahmadinejad exhibited "all the signs of a petty and cruel dictator." "If their president plans to travel to Iran, we will allow him to make a speech" at a university, Ahmadinejad told state TV before leaving New York to travel to South America earlier this week. http://www.iht.com/bin/print.php?id=7670210 (http://More...) I think he's bluffing, hoping Bush will play the, "I won't give them the kind of day" routine, cementing Ahmadinejad speech that the West is arrogant and petty. I think Bush should go... but we can't complan when Ahmadinejad gets up there and verbally assaults the president before he is even given a chance to speak. Ah well, no matter what happens, it may be interesting to watch. Title: Re: What goes around... Post by: Opmod on September 29, 2007, 12:56:58 PM ... comes around. Quote from: Associated Press Iran Labels CIA 'Terrorist Organization' TEHRAN, Iran (AP) - Iran's parliament on Saturday approved a nonbinding resolution labeling the CIA and the U.S. Army "terrorist organizations," in apparent response to a Senate resolution seeking to give a similar designation to Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. The hard-line dominated parliament cited U.S. involvement in dropping nuclear bombs in Japan in World War II, using depleted uranium munitions in the Balkans, Afghanistan and Iraq, supporting the killings of Palestinians by Israel, bombing and killing Iraqi civilians, and torturing terror suspects in prisons. "The aggressor U.S. Army and the Central Intelligence Agency are terrorists and also nurture terror," said a statement by the 215 lawmakers who signed the resolution at an open session of the Iranian parliament. The session was broadcast live on state-run radio. http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8RV8H100&show_article=1 (http://More...) I mean, I guess it's kind of funny, but I wanted to share this. Also, I guess all those people that say Ahmadinejad wouldn't invite controversal people to speak in HIS country should rethink that mantra. Quote from: Herald Tribune Ahmadinejad: Bush can speak at a university if he should ever travel to Iran TEHRAN, Iran: Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has extended an invitation to U.S. President George W. Bush to speak at an Iranian university if the American leader ever traveled to the Islamic Republic, state-run television reported Friday. As part of his controversial trip to New York, the hardline Iranian leader spoke Monday at Columbia University, where he faced hostile questioning and a combative introduction by the university's president, who said Ahmadinejad exhibited "all the signs of a petty and cruel dictator." "If their president plans to travel to Iran, we will allow him to make a speech" at a university, Ahmadinejad told state TV before leaving New York to travel to South America earlier this week. http://www.iht.com/bin/print.php?id=7670210 (http://More...) I think he's bluffing, hoping Bush will play the, "I won't give them the kind of day" routine, cementing Ahmadinejad speech that the West is arrogant and petty. I think Bush should go... but we can't complan when Ahmadinejad gets up there and verbally assaults the president before he is even given a chance to speak. Ah well, no matter what happens, it may be interesting to watch. I would say this is actually accurate of the CIA Title: Re: What goes around... Post by: Abraxas on September 29, 2007, 01:27:59 PM I wanted to say that too, but didn't want to sound like Winston and his Al-CIAda nonsence...
Title: Re: What goes around... Post by: bringbackwigs on September 29, 2007, 01:29:47 PM Did Winston not make the jump?
Title: Re: What goes around... Post by: Abraxas on September 29, 2007, 02:07:03 PM Did Winston not make the jump? You upset about it ;) ? Title: Re: What goes around... Post by: illhumanoddity on September 29, 2007, 02:07:47 PM I wanted to say that too, but didn't want to sound like Winston and his Al-CIAda nonsence... You got him mixed up with FreeinTX. Winston would probably just post some photoshop pic of Bush. Title: Re: What goes around... Post by: Abraxas on September 29, 2007, 02:13:23 PM Woops. All those nuts tasted the same...
EDIT: That didn't sound as gay when I said it in my head :-\... Title: Re: What goes around... Post by: bringbackwigs on September 29, 2007, 02:18:18 PM Woops. All those nuts tasted the same... EDIT: That didn't sound as gay when I said it in my head :-\... (http://starwarsloser.info/smile/happy/happy0188.gif) Title: Re: What goes around... Post by: freethinker on September 29, 2007, 02:56:59 PM Woops. All those nuts tasted the same... EDIT: That didn't sound as gay when I said it in my head :-\... ;D ;D ;D Bush would never talk to Ahmadinejad he will only talk about him or at best at him. To talk to or with the government of Iran would be seen as counterproductive to the war they want to have with that country. There is no room for acknowledgement of their sovereignty or place in the world in the PNAC visionaries view. This is why diplomacy is seen as being weak and without merit. IMO the decision to attack Iran before the end of this administration has already been made and all actions taken will only be those that lead to that conclusion. Title: Re: What goes around... Post by: RemoteOutpost on September 29, 2007, 09:49:14 PM "IMO the decision to attack Iran before the end of this administration has already been made and all actions taken will only be those that lead to that conclusion." __freethinker
With all that has happened in Iraq which allies do you think are going to have a taste for attacking Iran? Or how about the Russians and Chinese to consider? If the U.S. decides to go it alone I can assure you it's going to be a messier affair than Iraq. For starters, think of the money they'll be asking for. It'll make the budget for Iraq look like what the organ grinder's monkey is collecting. Title: Re: What goes around... Post by: Abraxas on September 29, 2007, 10:22:35 PM "IMO the decision to attack Iran before the end of this administration has already been made and all actions taken will only be those that lead to that conclusion." __freethinker With all that has happened in Iraq which allies do you think are going to have a taste for attacking Iran? Or how about the Russians and Chinese to consider? If the U.S. decides to go it alone I can assure you it's going to be a messier affair than Iraq. For starters, think of the money they'll be asking for. It'll make the budget for Iraq look like what the organ grinder's monkey is collecting. If the US cared about long term repercussions, we wouldn't be in Iraq right now. I have to agree with Freethinker on this one, I think. Title: Re: What goes around... Post by: freethinker on September 30, 2007, 02:44:17 AM "IMO the decision to attack Iran before the end of this administration has already been made and all actions taken will only be those that lead to that conclusion." __freethinker I never said it was a good idea or a prudent idea or that it was sane...this is bush and cheney we are talking about those considerations do not apply.With all that has happened in Iraq which allies do you think are going to have a taste for attacking Iran? Or how about the Russians and Chinese to consider? If the U.S. decides to go it alone I can assure you it's going to be a messier affair than Iraq. For starters, think of the money they'll be asking for. It'll make the budget for Iraq look like what the organ grinder's monkey is collecting. Title: Re: What goes around... Post by: fromtheleft on September 30, 2007, 06:33:15 AM Quote from: Abraxs Ah well, no matter what happens, it may be interesting to watch. It sure will be interesting in more ways than one. Wasn't it President Bush that said the following? (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/08/20060831-1.html):Quote from: President Bush ...Second, we have made it clear to all nations, if you harbor terrorists, you are just as guilty as the terrorists; you're an enemy of the United States, and you will be held to account. (Applause.)... Why Ahmadinejad is not getting a harder time than what he is getting is hard for me to understand. ::) Title: Re: What goes around... Post by: fromtheleft on September 30, 2007, 06:48:28 AM Quote from: Abraxs Ah well, no matter what happens, it may be interesting to watch. It sure will be interesting in more ways than one. Wasn't it President Bush that said the following? (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/08/20060831-1.html):Quote from: President Bush ...Second, we have made it clear to all nations, if you harbor terrorists, you are just as guilty as the terrorists; you're an enemy of the United States, and you will be held to account. (Applause.)... Why Ahmadinejad is not getting a harder time than what he is getting is hard for me to understand. ::) Title: Re: What goes around... Post by: gommi on September 30, 2007, 12:31:10 PM Any intelligent leader would take advantage of this diplomatic opportunity to avoid a war.
Imagine the debt and lives such a war would cost. Besides, the political dialogue between Bush and Amadenajad would be highly amusing. Title: Re: What goes around... Post by: Abraxas on September 30, 2007, 12:32:03 PM Bush isn't an intelegent leader... but surely you don't need me to tell you that.
Title: Re: What goes around... Post by: gommi on September 30, 2007, 12:35:45 PM Bush isn't an intelegent leader... but surely you don't need me to tell you that. An unfortunate truth.Title: Re: What goes around... Post by: Opmod on October 01, 2007, 05:16:22 AM I wanted to say that too, but didn't want to sound like Winston and his Al-CIAda nonsence... You got him mixed up with FreeinTX. Winston would probably just post some photoshop pic of Bush. NO that was shoeless Title: Re: What goes around... Post by: illy on October 01, 2007, 01:14:07 PM I wanted to say that too, but didn't want to sound like Winston and his Al-CIAda nonsence... You got him mixed up with FreeinTX. Winston would probably just post some photoshop pic of Bush. NO that was shoeless I actually kind of miss the "endless photoshops of Bush" thread that had reached 30 pages at 1.0. You get to laugh twice with a lot of those pics. Title: Re: What goes around... Post by: Terry Mathis on October 01, 2007, 04:57:41 PM Bush isn't an intelegent leader... but surely you don't need me to tell you that. An unfortunate truth.Village Idiot, more like it. What is the National Debt now? - Terry . Title: Re: What goes around... Post by: Gojira on October 01, 2007, 05:21:09 PM Bush isn't an intelegent leader... but surely you don't need me to tell you that. An unfortunate truth.Village Idiot, more like it. What is the National Debt now? - Terry . When I think village idiot I think genius. You know the crazy cooks who you don't listen to and then they end up being right? Bush is just a child in a monkey suit... Title: Re: What goes around... Post by: Cabrini Green on October 01, 2007, 05:42:02 PM Well, the CIA creates the most intelligent of terrorists.
Title: Re: What goes around... Post by: Terry Mathis on October 01, 2007, 06:30:27 PM .
Well, the CIA creates the most intelligent of terrorists. Hmmm, CIA + MOSSAD = TERRORISTS Yup, that'll do! ;D - Terry . Title: Re: What goes around... Post by: Opmod on October 02, 2007, 05:55:42 AM Actaully Mossad was one of the first MODERN terroist organizations. In the early years of Isreal it did not have the disproportionate power imbalanc it now enjoys with its neighbors. They resported to thinks like IEDs and exploding suicases.
OH bitter sweet Irony Title: Re: What goes around... Post by: illy on October 02, 2007, 09:43:00 AM Actaully Mossad was one of the first MODERN terroist organizations. In the early years of Isreal it did not have the disproportionate power imbalanc it now enjoys with its neighbors. They resported to thinks like IEDs and exploding suicases. OH bitter sweet Irony This whole issue hilites the reason why I think "War on Terror" is a poor name to describe what's going on. Terror is a tactic, not some evil entity. Even "good" people and countries have used it before. We used terror in Japan and Germany in WWII. It's a good thing we did too, because we won, and the occupations and reconstructions were an amazing success. Some of the actions taken by patriots in our revolution were terror tactics. IMO, the US labeling the Revolutionary Guard and Iran labeling the CIA as terrorists serves no real purpose other than propaganda. It's PR warfare based on semantics and shit-talking. TBH, I think it serves to obscure some important issues. Title: Re: What goes around... Post by: Terry Mathis on October 02, 2007, 09:53:45 AM .
Like fissile materiel production at four or five sites in Iran. ;) Regards Terry .
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