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Title: Wal-Mart and the economy Post by: Unfairpractices on October 04, 2007, 05:56:53 AM I recently saw an ad on Wal-Mart's joint venture with China. Then I read a Wall Street Journal article this morning on how more Americans are concerned about free trade and foreign economies.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Nx2ltoqyrEw Quote The new poll asked a broader but similar question. It posed two statements to voters. The first was, "Foreign trade has been good for the U.S. economy, because demand for U.S. products abroad has resulted in economic growth and jobs for Americans here at home and provided more choices for consumers." http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB119144942897748150.html?mod=blog The second was, "Foreign trade has been bad for the U.S. economy, because imports from abroad have reduced demand for American-made goods, cost jobs here at home, and produced potentially unsafe products. Asked which statement came closer to their own view, 59% of Republicans named the second statement, while 32% pointed to the first. With the whole recall thing, I think the larger, influential companies like Wal-Mart should be pressured to tell their suppliers to clean up their act. I'd much prefer that approach than government regulation. Title: Re: Wal-Mart and the economy Post by: gommi on October 04, 2007, 06:59:39 PM With the whole recall thing, I think the larger, influential companies like Wal-Mart should be pressured to tell their suppliers to clean up their act. I'd much prefer that approach than government regulation. Wal-Mart will not self-regulate its suppliers without government intervention, because it has no real incentive to do so, unless there is a substantial boycott of their products, which is not probable. Title: Re: Wal-Mart and the economy Post by: Gojira on October 05, 2007, 02:44:47 PM This article had nothing to do with Wal-Mart. This is based on the general political issue of whether Free Trade is good for the economy or not.
This was all started from the many practicing Economists who started re-evaluating the effects of globalization and the cost/benefits of comparative advantage that have again been put in debate. (But it always is) Many Americans feel that the Republican platform of free trade is failing America so of course the politicians trying to get into office start to change their views... ::) Wal-Mart however has got a lot more challenges to face than just an attack on free-trade, like employee benefits, wages, and environmental management. However, management is cleaning up and after years of Wal-Mart bashing by filmmakers, critics, politicians and the people alike, Wal-Mart is changing their ways, and hopefully, especially with moves toward Natural Capitalism, will have a profound effect on our economy and the rest of the world. Title: Re: Wal-Mart and the economy Post by: gommi on October 05, 2007, 06:09:22 PM However, management is cleaning up and after years of Wal-Mart bashing by filmmakers, critics, politicians and the people alike, Wal-Mart is changing their ways, and hopefully, especially with moves toward Natural Capitalism, will have a profound effect on our economy and the rest of the world. What are you implying by 'natural Capitalism'? Do you believe that in a system of complete economic freedom corporations would demonstrate any concern for employee satisfaction and self-regulation?Title: Re: Wal-Mart and the economy Post by: Gojira on October 05, 2007, 07:12:11 PM A thread on it...
http://www.itsallpolitics.com/forum/index.php?topic=146.0 Title: Re: Wal-Mart and the economy Post by: chovy on October 07, 2007, 05:10:35 PM i try to avoid stuff made in china whenever possible.
Title: Re: Wal-Mart and the economy Post by: Cabrini Green on October 07, 2007, 08:46:47 PM I only buy things (no homo) from china because its so hood. Sweatshops keep it gully.
Title: Re: Wal-Mart and the economy Post by: Gojira on October 08, 2007, 03:36:22 AM I only buy things (no homo) from china because its so hood. Sweatshops keep it gully. ::) Title: Re: Wal-Mart and the economy Post by: chovy on October 08, 2007, 09:29:42 AM wtf? did anyone understand that?
Title: Re: Wal-Mart and the economy Post by: Gojira on October 08, 2007, 10:55:00 AM wtf? did anyone understand that? :laugh:Title: Re: Wal-Mart and the economy Post by: Unfairpractices on October 10, 2007, 05:15:18 AM This article had nothing to do with Wal-Mart. This is based on the general political issue of whether Free Trade is good for the economy or not. This was all started from the many practicing Economists who started re-evaluating the effects of globalization and the cost/benefits of comparative advantage that have again been put in debate. (But it always is) Many Americans feel that the Republican platform of free trade is failing America so of course the politicians trying to get into office start to change their views... ::) Wal-Mart however has got a lot more challenges to face than just an attack on free-trade, like employee benefits, wages, and environmental management. However, management is cleaning up and after years of Wal-Mart bashing by filmmakers, critics, politicians and the people alike, Wal-Mart is changing their ways, and hopefully, especially with moves toward Natural Capitalism, will have a profound effect on our economy and the rest of the world. The article points out that product safety is a concern among voters. Wal-Mart does have a lot of problems to fix it but I don't see any evidence they're cleaning up their act. Sure, they have a PR campaign but that doesn't change the fact the company puts pressure on it's vendors/suppliers to cut costs. The American consumer suffers the consequences as a result of the unsafe products while Wal-Mart gets away with passing the buck? Not good. Title: Re: Wal-Mart and the economy Post by: Gojira on October 10, 2007, 07:40:59 AM This article had nothing to do with Wal-Mart. This is based on the general political issue of whether Free Trade is good for the economy or not. This was all started from the many practicing Economists who started re-evaluating the effects of globalization and the cost/benefits of comparative advantage that have again been put in debate. (But it always is) Many Americans feel that the Republican platform of free trade is failing America so of course the politicians trying to get into office start to change their views... ::) Wal-Mart however has got a lot more challenges to face than just an attack on free-trade, like employee benefits, wages, and environmental management. However, management is cleaning up and after years of Wal-Mart bashing by filmmakers, critics, politicians and the people alike, Wal-Mart is changing their ways, and hopefully, especially with moves toward Natural Capitalism, will have a profound effect on our economy and the rest of the world. The article points out that product safety is a concern among voters. Wal-Mart does have a lot of problems to fix it but I don't see any evidence they're cleaning up their act. Sure, they have a PR campaign but that doesn't change the fact the company puts pressure on it's vendors/suppliers to cut costs. The American consumer suffers the consequences as a result of the unsafe products while Wal-Mart gets away with passing the buck? Not good. Wal-Mart is not the only retailer selling these products. The blame should be put on the suppliers... How is any retailer supposed to know until Matel comes out saying so? Title: Re: Wal-Mart and the economy Post by: gommi on October 11, 2007, 12:17:22 PM Wal-Mart is not the only retailer selling these products. The blame should be put on the suppliers... How is any retailer supposed to know until Matel comes out saying so? Title: Re: Wal-Mart and the economy Post by: Gojira on October 11, 2007, 12:29:03 PM Wal-Mart is not the only retailer selling these products. The blame should be put on the suppliers... How is any retailer supposed to know until Matel comes out saying so? Um, I never said they don't have control over their suppliers... Who is supposed to know that the usual products that have always been pushed through their supply chain is to be tainted. Some of their suppliers didn't even know! Stop classifying Wal-Mart as the evil empire... Title: Re: Wal-Mart and the economy Post by: gommi on October 11, 2007, 07:10:01 PM Who is supposed to know that the usual products that have always been pushed through their supply chain is to be tainted. Some of their suppliers didn't even know! You don't identify a connection between corporate pressure to reduce production costs and the accidental release of defected and dangerous products?Quote Stop classifying Wal-Mart as the evil empire... Evil? No, just complicated. As a single organization it is only a product of economic circumstance. The owners of Wal-Mart are forced to engage in harmful practices due to the competitive market. Title: Re: Wal-Mart and the economy Post by: Gojira on October 11, 2007, 07:25:39 PM You don't identify a connection between corporate pressure to reduce production costs and the accidental release of defected and dangerous products? Interesting comment. Yet, Mattel (as an example) isn't the only company that supplies their products. Maybe the suppliers and retailers should of have had a more active role however when business is usually based on trust after good reputations, businesses shouldn't have to expect such things to happen. But don't think that risk management teams aren't all over this. They are going to make sure that something like this isn't going to happen again. The cardinal rule is admitting mistake, and that has happened. Quote Evil? No, just complicated. As a single organization it is only a product of economic circumstance. The owners of Wal-Mart are forced to engage in harmful practices due to the competitive market. Forced? I don't think so. Complicated? Maybe. Mattel at first tried to blame China's producers only later to blame themselves. The business world is much complicated but I don't think we should be so quick to blame retailers even if they have had an indirect effect on production. If certain production standards can't be met, truthful companies should be open about it. That's it. If not, government needs to step in. And china did. Supposedly. Title: Re: Wal-Mart and the economy Post by: Baldar on October 12, 2007, 01:13:07 PM Walmart will change its policy, all people have to do is care more about policy than price. Everyone wants to blame Walmart for everything, but does anyone understand that Walmart will only do what people want them to do? Buy more expensive products from another firm and eventually Walmart will care, they don't have a monopoly, only the lowest prices.
Of course we can throw out the fact that Walmart, especially when located in poor areas, lowers the food and clothing costs substantially 10 - 20%. Quote Global Insight reviewed a wide range of previous studies that indicated that the efficiencies that Wal-Mart has fostered in the retail sector have led to lower prices for the U.S. consumer. These results were supported by statistical analysis which found that the expansion of Wal-Mart over the 1985 to 2004 period can be associated with a cumulative decline of 9.1% in food-at-home prices, a 4.2% decline in commodities (goods) prices, and a 3.1% decline in overall consumer prices as measured by the Consumer Price Index-All Items, which includes both goods and services. The main driver of this impact was a 0.75% improvement in the overall efficiency of the economy. Increased capital intensity and lower import prices were secondary drivers. The 3.1% decline in the price level was partially offset by a 2.2% decline in nominal wages, so that the net effect was to increase real disposable income by 0.9% by 2004. Global Insight]http://www.globalinsight.com/MultiClientStudy/MultiClientStudyDetail2438.htm]Global Insight (http://www.globalinsight.com/MultiClientStudy/MultiClientStudyDetail2438.htm) Title: Re: Wal-Mart and the economy Post by: chovy on November 19, 2007, 01:45:52 AM I've got new hope for WalMart, if they come through on their promise.
They are going green, according to the CEO. Reducing product packaging, one cereal box that contains no air, would save 1,500 trees. vs. the existing packaging that is 20% air (no product). They are also giving preferential treatment to supply siders that demonstrate an acceptable level of green technology at their facilities. In 2 years, the goal is to have all WalMart trucks operating on biodiesel. They are also retrofitting their stores with renewable energy as part of the energy mix where appropriate. That includes auto dimmers that adjust the lighting based on the amount of sunlight that is coming into the store (much more efficient than "all on or all off"). They are also adding solar panels on the roofs, and wind turbines as well. This is a good sign to see one of the most competitive companies ever known take a lead in this area. Title: Re: Wal-Mart and the economy Post by: Biker Dude on November 19, 2007, 05:47:27 AM I can't recall exactly where but somewhere locally I have seen a store with a wind generator...
Title: Re: Wal-Mart and the economy Post by: chovy on November 19, 2007, 08:29:48 AM I saw one in Austin, TX
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