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Title: armenian genocide by ottoman empire to be official (us congress)
Post by: chovy on October 12, 2007, 07:25:25 PM
its about damn time -- turkey should just tell the world, it was in the past, we weren't part of the ruling power at the time -- and move on.


Title: Re: armenian genocide by ottoman empire to be official (us congress)
Post by: allpoints on October 12, 2007, 08:09:52 PM
Instead they've discontinued diplomatic relations with the US and demanded that the US remove all it's military assets from Turkey at a time when it's in the national interests of the US to have them there.


Congress needlessly screwed the pooch on this one...


Title: Re: armenian genocide by ottoman empire to be official (us congress)
Post by: chovy on October 12, 2007, 11:05:31 PM
baah...fuck turkey -- nobody is calling the spanish inquisition a "formal Q&A" because they are helping us.


Title: Re: armenian genocide by ottoman empire to be official (us congress)
Post by: OswaldTheOsprey on October 13, 2007, 08:31:52 AM
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Turkey should face the truth. Bravo for the resolution!

OswaldTheOsprey


Title: Re: armenian genocide by ottoman empire to be official (us congress)
Post by: Cabrini Green on October 17, 2007, 07:41:12 PM
Don't they have more important things to be doing? Not trying to sound like an ass though.


Title: Re: armenian genocide by ottoman empire to be official (us congress)
Post by: chovy on October 20, 2007, 12:26:27 AM
I don't care, to be honest. Its a shame that people were mass-killed, no matter what the country -- German, Turkey...those people who did that are long gone by now (especially in Turkey's case - WWI), so why deny history?

Coming from a country that passes laws forbidding its citizens to "bad mouth" it -- its no wonder the turkish-armenian who raised the public's awareness was murdered a year ago.

If anything, the only thing we have to gain is WWIII


Title: Re: armenian genocide by ottoman empire to be official (us congress)
Post by: Otto on October 20, 2007, 09:55:00 AM
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Turkey should face the truth. Bravo for the resolution!

OswaldTheOsprey

Read this book Oswald. It is about how Ottoman Turks have been killed "BY ARMENIANS". It is written by an American historian.  Truth is not just black and  white.


Title: Re: armenian genocide by ottoman empire to be official (us congress)
Post by: OswaldTheOsprey on October 20, 2007, 11:11:21 AM
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Turkey should face the truth. Bravo for the resolution!

OswaldTheOsprey

Read this book Oswald. It is about how Ottoman Turks have been killed "BY ARMENIANS". It is written by an American historian.  Truth is not just black and  white.

You are quite right. Sometimes history is blood red.

OswaldTheOsprey


Title: Re: armenian genocide by ottoman empire to be official (us congress)
Post by: Otto on October 20, 2007, 11:09:38 PM
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Turkey should face the truth. Bravo for the resolution!

OswaldTheOsprey

Read this book Oswald. It is about how Ottoman Turks have been killed "BY ARMENIANS". It is written by an American historian.  Truth is not just black and  white.

You are quite right. Sometimes history is blood red.

OswaldTheOsprey
Yes, unfortunately. In fact it is red almost all the time. Stained with inocent's blood from all sides. Not only Armenian blood.


Title: Re: armenian genocide by ottoman empire to be official (us congress)
Post by: OswaldTheOsprey on October 21, 2007, 05:38:07 AM
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Turkey should face the truth. Bravo for the resolution!

OswaldTheOsprey

Read this book Oswald. It is about how Ottoman Turks have been killed "BY ARMENIANS". It is written by an American historian.  Truth is not just black and  white.

You are quite right. Sometimes history is blood red.

OswaldTheOsprey
Yes, unfortunately. In fact it is red almost all the time. Stained with inocent's blood from all sides. Not only Armenian blood.

Yes. Worldwide-every corner of the globe and all throughout history.

OswaldTheOsprey


Title: Re: armenian genocide by ottoman empire to be official (us congress)
Post by: Baldar on October 22, 2007, 04:35:25 PM
Why now?

Why not scream at Rome for its cause of the diaspora and genocide?
England for its causes both Opium Wars and Ireland?
US with the American Indians?
Lets not forget the Balkans

There is a time and place to discuss things.  Why is congress so quick to attempt to isolate the presidency internationally?

The word principle and congress, by the way do not go together.


Title: Re: armenian genocide by ottoman empire to be official (us congress)
Post by: OswaldTheOsprey on October 22, 2007, 04:39:52 PM
Why now?

Why not scream at Rome for its cause of the diaspora and genocide?
England for its causes both Opium Wars and Ireland?
US with the American Indians?
Lets not forget the Balkans

There is a time and place to discuss things.  Why is congress so quick to attempt to isolate the presidency internationally?

The word principle and congress, by the way do not go together.

The words principle and politics do not go together.

OswaldTheOsprey


Title: Re: armenian genocide by ottoman empire to be official (us congress)
Post by: Baldar on October 22, 2007, 04:41:26 PM
I agree