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Title: Carter on Bush Torture, "I don't think it, I know it. Certainly." Post by: FreeinTX on October 13, 2007, 10:29:52 AM PRES CARTER: *I DON'T THINK U.S. USING TORTURE, I KNOW IT!*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uj4xUKqEHM Are you going to tell me that torture is okay? FreeinTX Title: Re: Carter on Bush Torture, "I don't think it, I know it. Certainly." Post by: FreeinTX on October 13, 2007, 10:35:26 AM Let me add in;
Quote Former president Jimmy Carter isn't just suspicious that the US is using torture to extract intelligence from detainees -- he's absolutely convinced. Asked by CNN's Wolf Blitzer if, by Carter's definition of the word, the United States had used torture during the Bush administration, the Nobel Peace Prize winner was adamant: "I don't think it, I know it," he said. "Certainly." Pressed by Blitzer on whether that meant that President Bush was lying, Carter was equally clear. "The president is self-defning what we have done and authorized in the torture of prisoners," said Carter."Yes." Earlier in the interview, Carter said Bush's denial this week that the US did not in fact torture detainees was "not an accurate statement if you use the international norms of torture as has always been honored in the last 60 years, since the Universal Declaration of Human Rights was promulgated." "But you can make your own definition of human rights and say we don't violate them," he added, "and you can make your own defintion of torture and say we don't violate them." Carter was equally outspoken in a Wednesday interview with the BBC, calling Vice President Dick Cheney a "disaster," according to Reuters. "He's a militant who avoided any service of his own in the military," he said of Cheney, adding that the vice president "has been most forceful in the last 10 years or more in fulfilling some of his more ancient commitments that the United States has a right to inject its power through military means in other parts of the world." "You know he's been a disaster for our country," Carter continued. "I think he's been overly persuasive on President George Bush and quite often he's prevailed." The following video is from CNN's Situation Room, broadcast on October 10, 2007. I found it funny that a guy from the White House (Senior Whitehouse Official) who refused to be id'ed said it's sad a president would "speak like that." Unbelievable. But note how quickly he pulls back on prosecuting the President for the crimes he has committed. FreeinTX Title: Re: Carter on Bush Torture, "I don't think it, I know it. Certainly." Post by: neue regel on October 13, 2007, 11:17:28 AM Quote 'Carter on...' About all it took to turn on my 'I couldn't care less' filter. Title: Re: Carter on Bush Torture, "I don't think it, I know it. Certainly." Post by: Biker Dude on October 13, 2007, 11:49:38 AM I don't consider the former Pres Carter to much of an authority on much these days. Certainly not somebody I care about free.
Title: Re: Carter on Bush Torture, "I don't think it, I know it. Certainly." Post by: Dog Face 11B on October 13, 2007, 12:12:02 PM PRES CARTER: *I DON'T THINK U.S. USING TORTURE, I KNOW IT!* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uj4xUKqEHM Are you going to tell me that torture is okay? FreeinTX Does Carter know a dictator he doesn't love or respect? Isn't torture one of the many tools a dictator uses to keep the people in line? Title: Re: Carter on Bush Torture, "I don't think it, I know it. Certainly." Post by: Patton on October 13, 2007, 01:05:32 PM He is a liar and a hypocrite attempting to re-write history.
Last Tuesday on the "Early Show" he said: Even after the Shah (of Iran) was deposed," Carter told co-anchor Harry Smith, "I quickly restored diplomatic relations with Iran. As a matter of fact, that's been proven by the fact I had about 60 diplomats in Iran, and they had an equal number in Washington, so we were continuing to try to communicate with them and work with them. And I think that, now, with increasing evidence that Iran is a dangerous and unpredictable country, the best thing to do is to have a maximum diplomatic relationship. Early Show (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/10/09/earlyshow/leisure/books/main3346237.shtml?source=RSSattr=Politics_3346237) If that is true Mr President than reconcile this please: WiKi=On April 7, 1980, the United States broke diplomatic relations with Iran Don't like WiKi? Here's Reuters...April 7, 1980 - U.S. President Jimmy Carter breaks off diplomatic relations with Iran Rueters (http://uk.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUKBLA84625020070311) So he criticizes Bush for not having diplomatic relations with Iran...but he breaks diplomatic relations when HE was President...can you say hypocrite? He will go down as the worst President in US history who FAILED to US military power for a GOOD reason the same way Bush will go down as the worst President in US history for USING US military power for a BAD one. Title: Re: Carter on Bush Torture, "I don't think it, I know it. Certainly." Post by: Dog Face 11B on October 13, 2007, 01:13:55 PM Carter is a disgrace to this country and the office he held....
peanuts is his thing....truth is not.... Title: Re: Carter on Bush Torture, "I don't think it, I know it. Certainly." Post by: Abraxas on October 13, 2007, 01:30:57 PM He is a liar and a hypocrite attempting to re-write history. Last Tuesday on the "Early Show" he said: Even after the Shah (of Iran) was deposed," Carter told co-anchor Harry Smith, "I quickly restored diplomatic relations with Iran. As a matter of fact, that's been proven by the fact I had about 60 diplomats in Iran, and they had an equal number in Washington, so we were continuing to try to communicate with them and work with them. And I think that, now, with increasing evidence that Iran is a dangerous and unpredictable country, the best thing to do is to have a maximum diplomatic relationship. Early Show (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/10/09/earlyshow/leisure/books/main3346237.shtml?source=RSSattr=Politics_3346237) If that is true Mr President than reconcile this please: WiKi=On April 7, 1980, the United States broke diplomatic relations with Iran Don't like WiKi? Here's Reuters...April 7, 1980 - U.S. President Jimmy Carter breaks off diplomatic relations with Iran Rueters (http://uk.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUKBLA84625020070311) So he criticizes Bush for not having diplomatic relations with Iran...but he breaks diplomatic relations when HE was President...can you say hypocrite? He will go down as the worst President in US history who FAILED to US military power for a GOOD reason the same way Bush will go down as the worst President in US history for USING US military power for a BAD one. Point WELL argued.
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