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The last ditch of the current World Order is being blackmailed :police:

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSL1411390420071014


 

This is part of the propaganda against Iran. If the security forces knew of any plot against Putin it will not go to the media first but rather they will act on it. It's the same old BS technique used over and over to create an atmosphere of fear. And it's at the first ten pages of any news site. The latest news update is that he is indeed going to Iran.

Actually, the report was first published by Interfax, a russian news agency.


This could mean that either the report was deliberately fabricated to give Putin a publicity stunt among russians..

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSL1411390420071015?pageNumber=2

Or it could simply mean that the russian intelligence is seriously sensing danger, and is warning in advance. In that case, Iran would have no interest whatsover in planning such an assasination, as Russia/China are her strong allies. So who else operates in Iran under the disguise of islamic extremists?
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/05/bush_authorizes.html

The international bankers and the rest of the establishment would love to get rid of Putin.

OswaldTheOsprey

Adolf, you forgot "jew" near "bankers" ...



Herdsman,

actually it plays everyones agenda except Iranian,, Putin get's his big ball game, West gets pseudo fight between Iran and Russia... to actually kill or kidnap Putin will require utter stupidness which can only come from Arab / Chechen Islamic group...

If the russian intelligence is seriously sensing the danger the federal bodyguard service wouldn't make that obvious to the media. I agree though that an assasination attempt by Iran on Putin does not make sense.



It only makes sense that security services do not reveal such info to media. Since if it is true they do not want to reveal anything and catch them, and if not true they are not in business of rumors...

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OswaldTheOsprey

that's over the edge. Russia is a de facto autocracy, a mild one, but the governmental control over the media if far from total. Those of you who speak Russia can watch the frantically anti-Putini Evgeniy Kiseliov slamming the Pres on the RTVi channel here:

 http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q_pXttuCbkg

Putin is routinely bashed by a segment of the Russian media, so it is not "unthinkable" that something is published without VVP's (Puta's initials)blessing.

since when RTVi is Russian channel? RTVi is as Russian as CNN is Pakistani when they report from there...

but your even lamest mistake was to remind Kiselev in the same same where you speak about free Russian media, this could work on American like Oswald who know love what he knows about Russia (vodka, bears and cheap sluts)... ain't gonna work here.

Kiselev was a head of channel named NTV his channel was just overtaken by government,, no as it,, overtaken... and now it used by government for it's sophisticated proPutinganda..

get back to your lair with your commie shite,,,

What about Russia's perserverance under marxist terror and the exploitation under international capitalism? That is what I admire.

OswaldTheOsprey

How about you getting bit knowledge about Russia before you blab some crap ? Without those Marxists as you call to Jews,,, Russians would live under Tzar by now, like other crap around them lives... Well it's back under Tzar,,, ppl getting slaves,,, no wonder your fat ass is happy... Cheap man power for your slaving imperialist arse...

Imperialist? I want Russia for Russians not for the international capitalist cabals. People are not slaves in Russia-that phrase better fits Palestinians.

OswaldTheOsprey

lol, you are a joke,,, you have zero knowledge about Russia and you prove it over and over...

Hardy har har har! :P

OswaldTheOsprey

i speak perfect Russian and lived there, do you?

No I do not. Does that make you right?

OswaldTheOsprey

it makes me person who seen something with bare eyes compared to someone who read something on blog...

Different eyes can see things differently.

OswaldTheOsprey

different eyes can but different ears cannot see what different eyes can,,,

Ears hear. Eyes see.

OswaldTheOsprey

god help you,,,

God help us all.

OswaldTheOsprey

there are at least 50 million Russians who consider Pooting the Saviour. Just when the Chechens, the olygarchs and the mafia were ripping the goodold Mother apart, Vladimir Vladimirovich dashed through the smoke on the white horse, in a white kimono, and put the bastards to the graves and to the prison cells. The reality is more smart-assed than this, but people like simple coherent images. There are also at least 10 million Russians who consider VVP a non-repentent KGB enemy of freedom, the usurpator who was lucky to yield the results of a decade of economic reforms and high oil prices. So living in Russia does not automatically supply one with any clue of what's goin on. The words which will go with Poo-teen in any case are: opportunistic, pragmatic, self-disciplined, cautious, collectivity-oriented, controlling, suspicious.

The words I would use are Defender of Holy Mother Russia.

OswaldTheOsprey

who are the Attackers? Under the slogan of defending Mother Rossiya so many people were trampled into mud and blood, and they didn't even want to have anything common with Russia. I mean centuries of the Russian history. U know, it is very easy to beging conflating your personal power lust with the national interest in this business of defending sanctities. Understanding criticism of the government as national treason.

Attackers? How about international bankers and multinational corporations?

OswaldTheOsprey

inter-multi? What did they own in Russia in the 90s? Oil was in the hands of Russian companies. Gas was controlled by Gazprom, the state monopolist. Metallurgie controlled by Russian holdings. Media controlled by Russian olygarchs. Banking system controlled by Russian private bankers and the state. Foreign policy stiffly controlled by Great-Russia crowd; they just couldn't do much while Russia was in debt to the West. There were some investments of Western capital; hardly enough to speak about an "attack" of multinationals on Mother Russia.

Perhaps it is not a case of what they have but what they want.

OswaldTheOsprey

perhaps this theme of multinational people taking all over is a bit overhyped. One of those gadgets that explain the world only insofar as facts are not called out.

Are you saying that multinational corporations do not exist? ???

OswaldTheOsprey

they do and 90% of them made of American and Israeli Jews,,, they slowly and silently overtake the earth and soon you will experience that with your arse as it was sold

It appears they sold your brain. :laugh:

OswaldTheOsprey

so you admit being as intellectual as person with no brain or that you have fat instead of it?

No. I admit I find your posts brainless. Many congratulations to the doctor who performed your lobotomy-an excellent job! :P

OswaldTheOsprey

that's like a very exaggerated summation of my words. You said the multi-national "attacked" Mutter Russland, und Herr Putin defended. Elaborate what constituted the act of "attack".

Economic exploitation, borderless commerce with no national sovereignty. Mammon uber alles, uber alles in die welt. >:(

OswaldTheOsprey

sounds a strong slogan for a fight for justice. Details are needed. Exploitation of whom by whom? You're not arguing against private property for the means of production, are u? You're not Marxist, I trust. Exploitation of workers by Der Kapital, ..OK, but Putin changed nothing in this area. He just jailed an olygarch who was bankrolling a liberal political party; well-behaved olygarchs have retained their property and freedom. Try being more detailed speaking about international bankers' assault on la Madre.

I am not a marxist. I am a Social Fascist. Marism is the hand maiden of internastional capitalism.

OswaldTheOsprey

Funny, thats what they say about fascism.

You boys should get your defintions figured out.

"They" are wrong. Friedrich Engels, Jacob Schiff, Armand Hammer, Averill Harriman-the list goes on and on.

OswaldTheOsprey

but you argue with brainless person doesn't it make you brainless? start some diet to reduce cholesterol levels of your brain coz you may end up arguing with forum buttons and images you post,,,

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OswaldTheOsprey

Peisi, just one (theoretical) question.
Should the party thrive to win 100% of electorate vote (by all legal means)? Or should the true democracy represent, say, 50% (Dems) and 50% (Reps) votes like in American system?

It makes plenty of sens to try to assassinate Putin in Iran: That, if succesful but even more if Putin is only wounede, will destabilize the region more than the whole Iraq war. Iran-Russia relationship will deteriorate swiftly, and the attitude of Russia, so far unintrusive, will change dramaticaly. The stabilizing whieght of Russia over the region will be changed into another modern time crusade against islamists.

Who can do that? Al-Qaida.

It's Putin who kicked out al-Qaida from Chechenya. He is their primle target.

It also make sens that the news of it be released in the press: Now the terrorists know that the Kremlin is aware. Maybe they will cancel their plan.

I concur with your observations.

OswaldTheOsprey

Putin cannot die. He is invinccible. He is like the sun.

I mean al-Qaida could cancel their plan (if any) to kill Putin. Not the Putin to visit Iran.

Althought very highly unprobable, killing Putin in Iran would be disastrous for Iran, Russia, Iraq and the US altogether.