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Title: Good of the world and of the state Post by: Gaian on October 15, 2007, 09:53:38 AM If the government of some country follows some course of action regarding other nations, even those with which it is in unfriendly terms, the subordinates and allies trust in the understanding of the wise in their side and consequently copy those ways to their own strategy. But since the subordinates handle mainly smaller matters in smaller environment inside the country, those structures used in international affairs become structures of the country and of the allied group. So if the country wants to aim for its own good, it should aim for the good of the world. Renaming good "health" of everything in every sense helps to handle the difficulties in that.
Title: Re: Good of the world and of the state Post by: deianthropus on January 27, 2008, 05:49:22 PM To put it in very simple terms, yes. But often, a nation acting in it's own interest causes some degree of harm somewhere else. And therefore, a collection of diverse nations will not agree on what's 'best' for the world, for regions, or for blocs.
If sovereignty were abolished, with the (magically induced) approval of nations, it would be a different story. Without borders, "good" and "harm" would have two ends - municipal and global. And then there would be conflict between those interests. Now, if one were to introduce a new idea, an idea of humanity existing as a body above nations, above blocs, above regions and municipalities, perhaps there could be some agreement as to what's good for the world - especially speaking in terms of the mutually assured survival of humanity, and not the constantly threatened survival of nations. It would not require imposing a universal government, or abolishing sovereignty. Already there is an element of this new idea, and its motions are carried out by some of the more noble acts of the UN, certain multi-national charities, et cetera. But still, independently acting groups like nations, banks and corporations threaten this concept by acting against the interests of vast groups of people (even entire continents) in the spirit of personal gain. Title: Re: Good of the world and of the state Post by: Terry Mathis on January 28, 2008, 02:44:46 PM Noble efforts by the UN? Since the Cold War there has been none. The current UN is run by a bunch of third world despots (discounting the Security Council, I'm talking about the General Assembly) who haven't figured out the old cold war is over. The UN came about only to deal with issues pertaining to that. Indeed, the UN is an anachronism in time. ;) -Terry
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