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Title: elections in E Europe Post by: tejtej on October 20, 2007, 01:16:04 PM No counting recent election in Ukraine, this sunday (that is tomorrow) the so called new Europe (phrase copyright belong to J. Goebbels) will have two elections. Presidential elections in Slovenia (first round), far more important parliamentary elections in Poland and in a few weeks also in Croatia (on 25th of November).
While in Slovenia electing a president with more or less ceremonial role is just a warm up for parliamentary elections next autumn, Poland And Croatia will most likely both shift from right to the left political options, placing the region back to "old Europe". Title: Re: elections in E Europe Post by: philY on November 09, 2007, 12:43:56 PM While in Slovenia electing a president with more or less ceremonial role is just a warm up for parliamentary elections next autumn, Poland And Croatia will most likely both shift from right to the left political options, placing the region back to "old Europe". I have to write something, you mentioned that Poland moved from right to the left. It is not true. I voted against The Kaczynskis, but I am not from a left side. Finally Poland became more right that it was. The Kaczynskis claim they are from conservative party what is considered as the right wing. Saying that someone is a conservative is not enough, they still have to behave this way. The Kaczynskis have autocratic and totalitarian ideas. They wanted to be rulers of Poland. They wanted absolute power. In democratic countries it is not allowed. They should be adminstrators of the country. They forgot that people who survived communism would not like to be threatened by Police and Special Forces. The Kaczynski arrested many people accusing them of imaginary crimes. So The Kaczynski Brothers are much closer to Lukashenko, Putin than to democratic authorities from Western Europe. OK, The Kaczynskis do not like Lukashenko and Putin, but they think and behave the same way. So I would not say that we moved to the left. We rather run away from a danger of totalitarism again. And we are much closer to EU than we have ever been what you would consider as 'old Europe'. However I prefer Old Europe than Europe of Lukashenko. Greetings philY Title: Re: elections in E Europe Post by: tejtej on November 09, 2007, 04:03:06 PM I have to write something, you mentioned that Poland moved from right to the left. It is not true. I also wrote it before the elections. So how far is the forming of the new government? Title: Re: elections in E Europe Post by: philY on November 09, 2007, 05:55:33 PM I have to write something, you mentioned that Poland moved from right to the left. It is not true. I also wrote it before the elections. So how far is the forming of the new government? Donald Tusk, a leader of liberal party, is going to be a prime minister, he is about to form a new goverment. Lech Kaczynski, The President is very unhappy tries to blacken some candidates for ministers, especially Sikorski. L.Kaczynski says that Sikorski is against USA that's why he shouldn't become the Minister of Foreign Affairs. It is not true, Sikorski lived in Washington DC, has many friends among American congressmen, graduated from Oxford, a big fan of F-16s :). The Kaczyskis are this way, they always say something they can't prove and then they say this information is strictly confidential, so can't be explained further. The Kaczynskis also used to say that Walesa co-operated with communists. So, I am very happy PiS (Law and Justice), The kaczynski Brothers party, lost this elections, but still they remain as the 2nd party in Polish Parliament. Lech Kaczynski is still the President. It will be a tough time for Tusk. The Kaczynskis are also against Charter of Fundamental Rights, they did not sign this document. It will be a tough issue in EU, bacause Tusk as the Prime Minister wants to sign it but LKaczynski as President doesn't want to do it. Who will go to EU meetings? Both want to do it :) Greetings philY
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