IAP Political Forum

my dream of building a particaptory society is based on grassroots organizing through volunteering. I have planned out how this new spiritual society could replace consumerism and capitalism. We wouldn't need money, private property, or representative politics. We could create a direct democracy using the internet and give communities the control over the land. Imagine a internet based democracy where everyone can deliver the next presidential speech. This new utopia would grow their own food in gardens. Remember God gave us a Garden in the begining. If we want to save the world we must perserve it. Capitalism seeks to exploit and profit of it and us. We are in desperate need now of a drastic driven harmonious intervention. Are you willing to save the world or stop mass extinction from occuring as it has unchecked. Remember that you must start low to climb a mountain. We must begin all over again in the garden.

your skepticism and cynicism are a result of being disenfrancised from the political system. Lets face it, only the elite can run for high office. Well dont you think a direct democracy could empower us and renew the creative spirit of the American people? Why do you think its ok to bash an alternative to capitalism and consumerism as if the worlds not being destroyed by blind arrogance and ignorance? A utopia could work and it has to work if we make a transparent government than all can equally particapate in. We have to get rid of private property so that the land can be optimally managed by consensus from those that live there. With this plan, is not a condition of slave wagery or the creation of false identities with consumer goods. Instead we would start a realtionship with the plant kingdom and animal kingdom by praying and loving our plants. Here is something we havent tried and it could systematically remove hatred and war from the forfront of society forever. why live in a system based on competition when we can actually cooperate and let love be the guiding force?

i have pointed out that the cause of our problems is this being a man made world. the solution is simple; end capitalism and consumerism and replace it with a particapatory society based on volunteerism. Begin a new relationship with nature that will teach us how emotionally intellengent she really is. Are we forgetting that god created the plant and animal kingdoms? nature is much more emotionally intelligent than we are. Nature isn't unconcious, its concious. Only by loving nature will we begin to see less mental health problems and less global warming. The clean technologies are already designed, it just takes money to spend us there. Wouldn't u rather get rid of money altogether, and as an empowered society, use volunteer groups to manufacture all the clean technology our society needs? With a cause as great as saving the world, millions will work hard to get us there. We are the generation that was born to solve these problems. The elite are hellbent on making things worse. So lets get rid of elite control, create a direct democracy and begin in the garden as Adam and Eve.

Do you believe in rainbows with pots of gold and unicorns?

More likely LSD rainbows, with pots full of Maui gold.

if this is a politcal forum, than why do you doubt the sincerity of my conviction? i am simply offering you the best form of democracy ever imagined.  it involves a think tank and a volunteer organization network.  the best ideas and inititatives are selfless, of for and by the people. therefor they recieve the most smiles which count as votes and sit ontop of the totum pole of information.  there are lots of ways to filter and organize the information so optimally search and create in this democracy. the best part is we become empowered participants and not just observers. how much longer are you going to wait as the elite make war through out the world and profit tremendously off of it.  the military industrial complex is the only valuable american product to the rest of the world.  wake up you tards. drugs are bad.

Is Capitalism not a volunteer based system? Applying for a job and choosing to purchase products are all voluntary acts. People are also free to join a political party and vote if they wish.

In a magical world, where every garden is a wifi hotspot...


Somehow running direct democracy over the internet doesn't really seem like a good way to make important decisions.

One effect I see from this is that the poorer of the working class will be disenfranchised more. People who can't access the internet from home will have a greater likelihood of not getting the chance to vote. I also see security being an issue here.

The fallacy of this vision is that it makes the assumption that everyone is equally educated, skilled and able.  Everyone is not equally educated, skilled or able.  As long as there are deviants from your ideal it just won't work because it involves inclusion and cooperation when many are not mentally or physically capable of doing so or even being able to understand so.

In a book called conversations with god, god says "if everyone on the planet had their basic needs met-if the mass of people could live in dignity and escape the struggle of simple survival-would this not open the way for all of humankind to engage in more noble pursuits?  Would individual greatness really be suppressed if individual survival were guaranteed?"

now i dont see how mentally challenged people could not simply work in a garden with many other people from the community.  we dont all need to be equally skilled, educated, and able. i also want to propose a new education system to get rid of the prison one we have that last nearly 20 yrs of ones life and at the end your strapped with debt and lucky if you can get a job. here is my idea: put all the learned informations into interactive learning instruction and set up the database on the internet under a site called the people's education system. make it free and under the care of volunteer educators.  kids learn from exploration and when they choose to explore a subject, they learn at exponential rates because when you inquire, you create learning.  after a student has done a course of instruction, they can rate the material, than write a journal entry about what they retained in the process and than they can teach it to their parents or someone that will listen.  this will create masters of learning and not recall learners that standardized testing creates. plus you dont have to go to school to learn, you can do it from your homes or at public libraries and public computer labs. 

noone would be disenfrancised in this internet democracy because computers would be made available in librarys an internet cafes.  as for making important decisions what in fact is an important decision? on the local and national level, by the process of concensus, people would compromise and sort out their differences in a calm and respectful way. i believe the people are ready to be pariticapants in democracy and to represent themselves. the other way around being powerless observers leads to cynicism and skepticism and a ruling elite that we cant trust in power.

yes capitalism is a volunteer system but we have to struggle to survive.  i'm calling for the community itself to determine what its people's needs and wants are and than to exicute the most effective plan of resolving the issues at hand.