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Title: Crisis in Georgia
Post by: Shmack jan on November 09, 2007, 05:54:21 AM
Georgian president announces early elections for Jauary 2008

"... On Wednesday, after hundreds of riot police with shields and batons had broken up a rally outside the Georgian parliament, opposition supporters staged a new protest on the city's Rike Square. The police again employed harsh methods to dispel the crowd, including rubber bullets and tear gas...

... President Saakashvili said in a TV address to the nation on Wednesday that Russia's special services were behind recent events in Tbilisi, adding that Georgian special services had information that an alternative Georgian government had been formed in Russia..."

Early presidential elections would be held on January 5, 2008.

http://en.rian.ru/world/20071108/87247231.html

Georgia.. Democracy as it is..


Title: Re: Crisis in Georgia
Post by: 14-years-old-jane on November 09, 2007, 06:36:54 AM
Georgia cannot be democracy because these live by 15 century laws on other hand Russia does everything possible to turn this goddamned place to ever more horrible,,, Well Putin's foreign policy,,, nothing new


Title: Re: Crisis in Georgia
Post by: Green on November 09, 2007, 09:26:17 PM
I like this. Georgians has felt how their "democracy" smells. It smells with tear gas and tastes with blood on the lips. 
90% VOTES for Saakashvili in the Rose Revolution and so horrible a final.

Down with puppets!


Title: Re: Crisis in Georgia
Post by: 14-years-old-jane on November 09, 2007, 11:41:41 PM
and your homeland has nothing to do with it !!! what cool about Russian foreign policy that you will end up like you did in 90' broken full of criminals foreign nuclear waste garbage zone


Title: Re: Crisis in Georgia
Post by: Green on November 09, 2007, 11:58:13 PM
Quote from: 14-years-old-jane

and your homeland has nothing to do with it !!!


Quote from: 14-years-old-jane
Russia does everything possible to turn this goddamned place to ever more horrible

Hey, bot, your e-brain is overflown. Time to push "reset" button.


Title: Re: Crisis in Georgia
Post by: 14-years-old-jane on November 10, 2007, 12:01:54 AM
hey Russian, stop overtaking nearby countries or at least shut up when others do the same...


Title: Re: Crisis in Georgia
Post by: Green on November 10, 2007, 12:12:41 AM
So you agree Georgia is overtaken by your Western junta?
Stop slimebagging with your "democracy" at my door.

No proof Russia is involved in Georgian mess anyhow.


Title: Re: Crisis in Georgia
Post by: 14-years-old-jane on November 10, 2007, 02:31:59 AM
I agree that Russians trying to overtake Georgia, as they do with all non Muslim countries around you...

Proof,,, hehehe,,, there is no proof that Litvinenko got poisoned with nuclear waste by FSB as well,, not proof in Russia but Brits must be quite confident about that,,, on other note you pushing your Air Forces near Brit border instead of proving yourself in courthouse...

you are fockin joke,,,


Title: Re: Crisis in Georgia
Post by: Green on November 10, 2007, 11:06:11 PM
No proofs, no case.

Comparing death of one (former) KGBist with a breakup of a small impoverished nation.

Eatin' too many nuts?


Title: Re: Crisis in Georgia
Post by: philY on November 11, 2007, 04:10:53 PM
Nobody would give a damn about Georgia if they had no transit of oil possibilities. There are many countries that have nothing to offer and they are doomed... :). Poles care, Russians care, Americans care, the whole EU also cares... Oil rules the world... Actualy I find it very sad... If this crisis happened in Nepal  or Burkina Faso we would not say a word...
Greetings
philY


Title: Re: Crisis in Georgia
Post by: Peisithanatos on November 11, 2007, 05:23:12 PM
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how their "democracy" smells. It smells with tear gas and tastes with blood on the lips.

now let me tell u how your autocracy smells. It smells with the underwear of your nachalnik and tastes with the leather of his shoes on your lips. But never mind, protracted exposure to smells and tastes leads to desensitization so that u no longer notice them.


Title: Re: Crisis in Georgia
Post by: Shmack jan on November 12, 2007, 08:25:56 AM
Nobody is "overtaking" Georgia. If Georgia is dependent on Russia it is not Russia's fault. But it is off-topic anyway.

I fully agree with philY. Georgia is a strategic region through which turkmen oil could one day go through to Europe. Azeri oil already comes through Georgia. And it has totally nothing to do with democracy or whatever. There is no democracy on caucasus and it never ruled there. The only country which i could call less or more democracy there is Armenia. And you know why? Because nobody cares about Armenia, they have no international pipelines and are in turkish blockade. They live quitely in their small lovely country and enjoy oil and gas from Iran. And neither EU, nor USA touch them. And there are no riots, revolutions and blood. And they are the richest Caucasus nation.

As for Georgia, it unfortunately became a hostage of international struggle over caspian oil. And you know, i guess the west is getting less and less interested in Georgia, because Turkmenistan and Kazakhstan refused to transport their oil and gas through Caucasus but prefered Russia instead. NATO is interested in Georgia only as long as Baku-Cheyhan pipeline is working, but Azerbaijan alone cannot change Russia as a main oil supplier for Europe.


Title: Re: Crisis in Georgia
Post by: 14-years-old-jane on November 12, 2007, 11:07:45 AM
Nobody would give a damn about Georgia if they had no transit of oil possibilities. There are many countries that have nothing to offer and they are doomed... :). Poles care, Russians care, Americans care, the whole EU also cares... Oil rules the world... Actualy I find it very said... If this crisis happened in Nepal  or Burkina Faso we would not say a word...
Greetings
philY

This is problem with you my Polish friend,,, Russia doesn't want you or Georgians either to be US toys thus it makes their own toy,,, no oil needed for that,,, just a control,,,

Nobody is "overtaking" Georgia. If Georgia is dependent on Russia it is not Russia's fault. But it is off-topic anyway.

It's Georgian fault that Russians have all the money and influence to turn Georgians to toys? It's Russian foreign policy that will end up with some Georgians getting very upset and do something no Russian want to pass though,,,


Title: Re: Crisis in Georgia
Post by: philY on November 12, 2007, 06:27:25 PM
Nobody would give a damn about Georgia if they had no transit of oil possibilities. There are many countries that have nothing to offer and they are doomed... :). Poles care, Russians care, Americans care, the whole EU also cares... Oil rules the world... Actualy I find it very said... If this crisis happened in Nepal  or Burkina Faso we would not say a word...
Greetings
philY

This is problem with you my Polish friend,,, Russia doesn't want you or Georgians either to be US toys thus it makes their own toy,,, no oil needed for that,,, just a control,,,
Jane, you missunderstood me... Actually I want to live in perfect world where such the thing do not happen. Perhaps I did express myself wrong way, when I said Russians, Poles, I meant their goverments. And goverments do care because they see profits or losses. I will give an example. US Defence Secretary Robert Gates just said that US government is "categorically" opposed to any moves by Taiwan towards independence  :o . Believe me, I was shocked when I heard this on BBC.
Why is that? US just needs China's help in Afghanistan...
Just found another source where it is confirmed.
source:http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5h0194Ot5WZ0fEDUJfMWU177wX-sQ
Greetings
philY


Title: Re: Crisis in Georgia
Post by: Green on November 13, 2007, 12:11:29 AM
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how their "democracy" smells. It smells with tear gas and tastes with blood on the lips.

now let me tell u how your autocracy smells. It smells with the underwear of your nachalnik and tastes with the leather of his shoes on your lips. But never mind, protracted exposure to smells and tastes leads to desensitization so that u no longer notice them.
Since I never notice any smells and tastes, at least I didn't lose my ability to see.
What is a green paper stuck to your brown nose?


Title: Re: Crisis in Georgia
Post by: 14-years-old-jane on November 13, 2007, 10:39:40 AM
philY,, i wasn't attackin u or somethin,,, chill,,, we still can be a friends,,,,
zrozumie?


Title: Re: Crisis in Georgia
Post by: philY on November 13, 2007, 11:20:38 AM
philY,, i wasn't attackin u or somethin,,, chill,,, we still can be a friends,,,,
zrozumie?
philY rozumie  :angel:
No worries,  we all attack each other a bit... it is a dispute.. In the very begining I said I am Polish and we Poles are very political :) ... I used to work as political cartoonist and I was kicked out from my jobs 8-9 times :) ...
Greetings
philY


Title: Re: Crisis in Georgia
Post by: Dog Face 11B on November 17, 2007, 05:30:13 PM
I can see that someone here isn't old enough to remember soviet communism.....but if they want to go back to no food, no jobs, no freedoms, kgb kicking in doors taking people away to never be seen again....no skin off my back.....but remember, we kicked your ass once without firing a shot and can do it again militarily or not.

must suck to lose a war without even fighting one......seems the russians and the french have something in common.


Title: Re: Crisis in Georgia
Post by: Peisithanatos on November 17, 2007, 08:35:07 PM
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without even fighting

the French in 1940 didn't have the advantage that Americans had in 1945, - the 12 million Red Army keeping 80% of German forces busy.


Title: Re: Crisis in Georgia
Post by: 14-years-old-jane on November 18, 2007, 11:23:30 AM
I can see that someone here isn't old enough to remember soviet communism.....but if they want to go back to no food, no jobs, no freedoms, kgb kicking in doors taking people away to never be seen again....no skin off my back.....but remember, we kicked your ass once without firing a shot and can do it again militarily or not.

must suck to lose a war without even fighting one......seems the russians and the french have something in common.


At least world was familiar with the fact Soviet Union was totalitarian (non free country),,, unlike place where you live and complain about other's democracy... Somewhere you said that you are black,,, back in 50' in Soviet Union there was 80% of equality between races and sexes,,, can you say exact the same thing about your free country? back seat for blackies and kitchens for bitches? ain't that democratic?

Nowadays US democracy automatically creates a clown out of president, unlike Russia where goblin lookin ex-kgbist is more popular man than some elite male sex symbol,,, not that i'm sayin that healthy to be,,, in US it's not healthy either,,, it should be in the middle without radicalization...

So let's not forget everyone's history and care for present,,, we all had our bright moments of "democracy"