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Title: Humorous Political Hypocrisy Post by: Perrin on November 15, 2007, 05:57:48 PM I wanted to post these in the humor section, because there isn't really a reason to debate them. I just found them quite funny, if not a bit sad.
Quote I find it odd the Republicans had a different message when Clinton was President: KY's Senior Senator Mitch McConnell said during a speech on the floor of the U.S. Senate "Domestic terrorism is not a cause we have to fight or a project we need to fund. We are not interested in capturing bin Laden. Even though he has been offered to us. We are not the world's policemen. It's not our job to clean up other countries messes or arrest it's bad guys." VERBATIM QUOTES FROM WHEN CLINTON WAS COMMITTING TROOPS TO BOSNIA: "You can support the troops but not the president."--Rep Tom Delay (R-TX) "Well, I just think it's a bad idea. What's going to happen is they're going to be over there for 10, 15, maybe 20 years."--Joe Scarborough (R-FL) "Explain to the mothers and fathers of American servicemen that may come home in body bags why their son or daughter have to give up their life?"--Sean Hannity, Fox News, 4/6/99 "[The] President . . . is once again releasing American military might on a foreign country with an ill-defined objective and no exit strategy. He has yet to tell the Congress how much this operation will cost. And he has not informed our nation's armed forces about how long they will be away from home. These strikes do not make for a sound foreign policy."--Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA)" American foreign policy is now one huge big mystery. Simply put, the administration is trying to lead the world with a feel-good foreign policy."--Rep Tom Delay (R-TX) "If we are going to commit American troops, we must be certain they have a clear mission, an achievable goal and an exit strategy." --Karen Hughes, speaking on behalf of George W Bush "I had doubts about the bombing campaign from the beginning . . I didn't think we had done enough in the diplomatic area."--Senator Trent Lott (R-MS) "I cannot support a failed foreign policy. History teaches us that it is often easier to make war than peace. This administration is just learning that lesson right now. The President began this mission with very vague objectives and lots of unanswered questions. A month later, these questions are still unanswered. There are no clarified rules of engagement. There is no timetable. There is no legitimate definition of victory. There is no contingency plan for mission creep. There is no clear funding program. There is no agenda to bolster our over-extended military. There is no explanation defining what vital national interests are at stake. There was no strategic plan for war when the President started this thing, and there still is no plan today"--Rep Tom Delay (R-TX) "Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is."-- Governor George W. Bush (R)-TX Title: Re: Republican Quotes During Clinton Presidency Post by: Totino on November 15, 2007, 06:02:54 PM Good post Perrin. It's your topic, but I'd say it'd be a good one for US politics. It does a nice job at pointing out Republican hypocrisy. Makes you realise how easily people will turn on a dime for political reasons.
Title: Re: Republican Quotes During Clinton Presidency Post by: tadpol on November 15, 2007, 08:53:44 PM I'm too lazy to do it, but some one should post the democrat's rhetoric of the same period. I wouldn't bet strongly on consistency.
Title: Re: Republican Quotes During Clinton Presidency Post by: Biker Dude on November 15, 2007, 09:10:54 PM I'm too lazy to do it, but some one should post the democrat's rhetoric of the same period. I wouldn't bet strongly on consistency. Why does it always come down to this? One side can't ever say 'Oh yeah, that's fucked up', it's always 'look! They do it too!'Exception: Totino. Title: Re: Republican Quotes During Clinton Presidency Post by: Totino on November 15, 2007, 10:00:10 PM Yeah well it's a bit of an eye opener ;)
Title: Re: Republican Quotes During Clinton Presidency Post by: Opmod on November 16, 2007, 06:45:18 AM I'm too lazy to do it, but some one should post the democrat's rhetoric of the same period. I wouldn't bet strongly on consistency. Why does it always come down to this? One side can't ever say 'Oh yeah, that's fucked up', it's always 'look! They do it too!'Exception: Totino. In this case, the point of the post is Irony with a humurous undertone. The post makes the comparison to the Repubes of today and thier current rhetoric and those of "yesterday" and the rhetoric they spewed then. it is a fair comparison the same as it is fair to say "Ok so this is so but what was the opposition saying then compared to now?" Title: Re: Republican Quotes During Clinton Presidency Post by: Biker Dude on November 16, 2007, 06:58:28 AM It is also a fairly obvious attempt to soften the 'blow' by pointing out the oppositions missteps.
I used to do it with my parents when I was growing up. 'Come on Ma, brother did worse!' I attempt to avoid it in my life these days. Title: Re: Republican Quotes During Clinton Presidency Post by: Perrin on November 16, 2007, 07:54:06 AM I'm too lazy to do it, but some one should post the democrat's rhetoric of the same period. I wouldn't bet strongly on consistency. Why does it always come down to this? One side can't ever say 'Oh yeah, that's fucked up', it's always 'look! They do it too!'Exception: Totino. In this case, the point of the post is Irony with a humurous undertone. The post makes the comparison to the Repubes of today and thier current rhetoric and those of "yesterday" and the rhetoric they spewed then. it is a fair comparison the same as it is fair to say "Ok so this is so but what was the opposition saying then compared to now?" Had I taken a minute longer to think of a title for this thread, I would have created one that was less aimed at any particular political group. Opmod hit the nail on the head with his observation about this thread. Irony with a humorous undertone is a great way to put it. If a Mod is around and can change the thread titles, I think a better name for this thread should be Humorous Political Hypocrisy, then examples from all political leaning would be more welcome. Title: Re: Republican Quotes During Clinton Presidency Post by: Biker Dude on November 16, 2007, 08:09:59 AM Sounds reasonable. I will be happy to change it for you.
Title: Re: Humorous Political Hypocrisy Post by: Perrin on November 16, 2007, 08:31:20 AM Yippee!!!!!
Thanks Biker
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