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Title: Yup no liberal Hillary bias in the media...... Post by: Dog Face 11B on November 17, 2007, 11:08:39 AM Quote "Diamonds v. Pearls" Student Blasts CNN (Updated With CNN Response) http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2007/11/diamond_v_pearl_student_blasts_1.php16 Nov 2007 11:21 am Maria Luisa, the UNLV student who asked Hillary Clinton whether she preferred "diamonds or pearls" at last night's debate wrote on her MySpace page this morning that CNN forced her to ask the frilly question instead of a pre-approved query about the Yucca Mountain nuclear waste repository. "Every single question asked during the debate by the audience had to be approved by CNN," Luisa writes. "I was asked to submit questions including "lighthearted/fun" questions. I submitted more than five questions on issues important to me. I did a policy memo on Yucca Mountain a year ago and was the finalist for the Truman Scholarship. For sure, I thought I would get to ask the Yucca question that was APPROVED by CNN days in advance." Now, Luisa is getting "swamped" with critical e-mails. So what happened? Writes Luisa: "CNN ran out of time and used me to "close" the debate with the pearls/diamonds question. Seconds later this girl comes up to me and says, "you gave our school a bad reputation.' Well, I had to explain to her that every question from the audience was pre-planned and censored. That's what the media does. See, the media chose what they wanted, not what the people or audience really wanted. That's politics; that's reality. So, if you want to read about real issues important to America--and the whole world, I suggest you pick up a copy of the Economist or the New York Times or some other independent source. If you want me to explain to you how the media works, I am more than happy to do so. But do not judge me or my integrity based on that question."Rivals to Clinton believe that the debate audience had a pro-Clinton tilt. UNLV was responsible for distributing most of the tickets. In a separate post, Luisa provides the question she wanted to ask: Yucca Mountain, NV is the proposed site for the country's nuclear waste repository. Despite scientific evidence that it is a vulnerable site, the federal government continues to push for the plan to move forward. The evidence relied on is unsound and the risks involved in transporting high-level radioactive waste across the country are high. What will you [Sen. Clinton] do to ensure that the best site/s is/are chosen for the storage of spent nuclear reactor fuel?Sam Feist, the executive producer of the debate, said that the student was asked to choose another question because the candidates had already spent about ten minutes discussing Yucca Mountain. "When her Yucca mountain question was asked, she was given the opportunity to ask another question, and my understanding is that the [diamond v. pearls] questions was her other question," Feist said. "She probably was disappointed, but we spent a lot of time with a bunch of different candidates on Yucca Mountain, and we were at the end of the debate." Funny how CNN would stack the deck with pro Clinton questions......BUT they dont call it Clinton New Network for nothing Title: Re: Yup no liberal Hillary bias in the media...... Post by: freethinker on November 17, 2007, 03:59:07 PM Oh yeah doggie, that Clinton loving left wing liberal wing nut Glenn Beck would agree with your assesment of CNN.
Title: Re: Yup no liberal Hillary bias in the media...... Post by: Dog Face 11B on November 17, 2007, 04:06:31 PM Oh yeah doggie, that Clinton loving left wing liberal wing nut Glenn Beck would agree with your assesment of CNN. Yup and Allen Colmes would agree with your assessment of Fox news you moron. Title: Re: Yup no liberal Hillary bias in the media...... Post by: freethinker on November 17, 2007, 05:15:36 PM I'll remember that the next time I am watching the super liberal Allen Colmes show ::)
Title: Re: Yup no liberal Hillary bias in the media...... Post by: Perrin on November 19, 2007, 06:15:13 AM So DogFace, are you saying that CNN wouldn't do the same thing for a Republican debate?
Title: Re: Yup no liberal Hillary bias in the media...... Post by: jpn of Seattle on November 19, 2007, 07:49:54 AM Everywhere DogFace looks, he sees conspiracies and biases against his even-handed, moderate, mainstream ideology.
I wonder why? Title: Re: Yup no liberal Hillary bias in the media...... Post by: Dog Face 11B on November 19, 2007, 12:19:50 PM So DogFace, are you saying that CNN wouldn't do the same thing for a Republican debate? To this degree....NO.......and esp not just for one candidate. Why didnt they do the same for Edwards or Obama....why just Hillary? Title: Re: Yup no liberal Hillary bias in the media...... Post by: Abraxas on November 19, 2007, 12:28:28 PM Wait, we're going off the word of a single girl? I mean, I hate Hillary Clinton and I wouldn't put it past her (or ANY political candidate) to seed the audience with pre-approved questions, but with all due respect to decent reporting... this is meaningless.
This maens nothing to me. Title: Re: Yup no liberal Hillary bias in the media...... Post by: Dog Face 11B on November 19, 2007, 12:37:32 PM Everywhere DogFace looks, he sees conspiracies and biases against his even-handed, moderate, mainstream ideology. I wonder why? Dude are you serious? You're the Supreme Leader of the Tin Foil Hat Brigade of the Horde of Libtard land. But you're also a hypocrite so you accusing me of this is expected. Title: Re: Yup no liberal Hillary bias in the media...... Post by: Dog Face 11B on November 19, 2007, 12:44:50 PM Wait, we're going off the word of a single girl? I mean, I hate Hillary Clinton and I wouldn't put it past her (or ANY political candidate) to seed the audience with pre-approved questions, but with all due respect to decent reporting... this is meaningless. This maens nothing to me. http://sweetness-light.com/archive/hillary-camp-caught-planting-eco-questions http://sweetness-light.com/archive/hillary-camp-caught-planting-questions-again http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/190078.php http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20071110/pl_bloomberg/aiceiqbooeu Two people spoke out in this link. So far 5 people have came out to admit they were asked to ask pre selected question for the Senator from NY.... So they are all lying? Now CNN doing it for her and not the other canidates? Title: Re: Yup no liberal Hillary bias in the media...... Post by: Perrin on November 19, 2007, 12:47:56 PM Wait, we're going off the word of a single girl? I mean, I hate Hillary Clinton and I wouldn't put it past her (or ANY political candidate) to seed the audience with pre-approved questions, but with all due respect to decent reporting... this is meaningless. This maens nothing to me. Ding ding ding, we have a winner. Also, it appears that they were ASKED to asked a certain question, not told to, but I am with Abraxas on this one, not a Clinton fan, but this story seems a bit too one sided to be legit. Title: Re: Yup no liberal Hillary bias in the media...... Post by: OswaldTheOsprey on November 19, 2007, 12:52:38 PM It appears, IMHO, that CNN is pro-Hillary Clinton and that FOX is pro-Rudy Giuiliani. Notice, if you will, that I did not say pro-Democratic or pro-Republican. Perhaps all debates should be on MSNBC and moderated by Tim Russert! ;)
OswaldTheOsprey Title: Re: Yup no liberal Hillary bias in the media...... Post by: bringbackwigs on November 19, 2007, 12:57:10 PM Clinton New Network? That is such an incredibly weak attempt at humor.
Anyways, what is the point here? That CNN sucks? Duh. Title: Re: Yup no liberal Hillary bias in the media...... Post by: freethinker on November 19, 2007, 01:16:27 PM Clinton New Network? That is such an incredibly weak attempt at humor. What doggie really wants to know is does BBW use planted questions at town hall type events. I think he wants to write you in, but he's too shy to ask . ;DAnyways, what is the point here? That CNN sucks? Duh. Title: Re: Yup no liberal Hillary bias in the media...... Post by: Totino on November 19, 2007, 01:20:12 PM It appears, IMHO, that CNN is pro-Hillary Clinton and that FOX is pro-Rudy Giuiliani. Notice, if you will, that I did not say pro-Democratic or pro-Republican. Perhaps all debates should be on MSNBC and moderated by Tim Russert! ;) I don't know about that. I thought Wolf did a nice job at the last debate. He was tough on her....OswaldTheOsprey Title: Re: Yup no liberal Hillary bias in the media...... Post by: OswaldTheOsprey on November 19, 2007, 01:23:07 PM It appears, IMHO, that CNN is pro-Hillary Clinton and that FOX is pro-Rudy Giuiliani. Notice, if you will, that I did not say pro-Democratic or pro-Republican. Perhaps all debates should be on MSNBC and moderated by Tim Russert! ;) I don't know about that. I thought Wolf did a nice job at the last debate. He was tough on her....OswaldTheOsprey Perhaps-but nothing like Russert. OswaldTheOsprey Title: Re: Yup no liberal Hillary bias in the media...... Post by: bringbackwigs on November 19, 2007, 01:24:58 PM Clinton New Network? That is such an incredibly weak attempt at humor. What doggie really wants to know is does BBW use planted questions at town hall type events. I think he wants to write you in, but he's too shy to ask . ;DAnyways, what is the point here? That CNN sucks? Duh. Why, of course. Title: Re: Yup no liberal Hillary bias in the media...... Post by: Totino on November 19, 2007, 01:32:41 PM Someone get me in at the next debate. I'd love to have someone tell me what to ask her. Then it'd be even more shocking when I said "Senator Clinton, is it true you called someone a "Fucking Jew Bastard? Also have any tips on how to make a buck on cattle futures? How much would I have to donate to your campaign to have my friend pardoned from prison? P.S. I love how you get elected as a senator of my great state, and then go off campaigning, not fulfilling your duties as senator."
Damn I could go on and on and on and on. I'd better stop before my blood pressure skyrockets. Title: Re: Yup no liberal Hillary bias in the media...... Post by: bringbackwigs on November 19, 2007, 01:36:58 PM And you would finish it up as, "Don't tase me, bro".
Title: Re: Yup no liberal Hillary bias in the media...... Post by: Totino on November 19, 2007, 01:37:54 PM Wigs, how did you get to be so Witty? That was classic hahaha. I wish I could come up with your stuff.
Title: Re: Yup no liberal Hillary bias in the media...... Post by: bringbackwigs on November 19, 2007, 01:39:20 PM Years of drug use, probably.
Title: Re: Yup no liberal Hillary bias in the media...... Post by: Abraxas on November 19, 2007, 01:43:45 PM Wait, we're going off the word of a single girl? I mean, I hate Hillary Clinton and I wouldn't put it past her (or ANY political candidate) to seed the audience with pre-approved questions, but with all due respect to decent reporting... this is meaningless. This maens nothing to me. http://sweetness-light.com/archive/hillary-camp-caught-planting-eco-questions Ok, as I said above, I don't put it past her (or ANY other campaign) to plant questions. I'm talking about the source of the criticizm. The link in the original topic was supported by what a single girl said on her MySpace page. This link (the one above) actually has an admission by her campaign to planting the queation, so this is legitimate. Quote from: DF11B http://sweetness-light.com/archive/hillary-camp-caught-planting-questions-again This link said the man was ASKED to ask a certain question. He was not a plant... he was a request. Quote from: DF11B http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/190078.php This is a blog and is therefore as reputable as the dump I just took. Quote from: DF11B http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20071110/pl_bloomberg/aiceiqbooeu Two people spoke out in this link. Again, they were SUGGESTED a question, not planted. Quote from: DF11B So far 5 people have came out to admit they were asked to ask pre selected question for the Senator from NY.... So they are all lying? Now CNN doing it for her and not the other canidates? CNN was responsible for the FIRST story. The REST were all suggested by Clinton staffers. Your premise that CNN is biased toward Clinton is flawed. You would be accurate is assuming that people who work for Clinton are biased toward her... but that wouldn't be any radical realization by ANY means. ALL candidates have a vetting proccess for anyone who wants to ask questions. Hell, even FEMA does. But in the scheme of things I care more about my federal agencies (that are responcible for the safety of Americans) planting questions than stupid presidental candidates... but maybe my priorites are misplaced. Someone get me in at the next debate. I'd love to have someone tell me what to ask her. Then it'd be even more shocking when I said "Senator Clinton, is it true you called someone a "Fucking Jew Bastard? Also have any tips on how to make a buck on cattle futures? How much would I have to donate to your campaign to have my friend pardoned from prison? P.S. I love how you get elected as a senator of my great state, and then go off campaigning, not fulfilling your duties as senator." Damn I could go on and on and on and on. I'd better stop before my blood pressure skyrockets. Yeah, I'm more concerned about the people that did EXACTLY what they were told than the candidates that suggested people ask a certain question. I would begin: "Sen. Clinton, it was suggested that I ask you which piece fo jewlrey you prefer, but rather than do a diservice to Democracy itself and actually *DO* that, I would like to talk to you about your recent Iran vote." I mean, if I could ask that without throwing up from nervousness and all. Title: Re: Yup no liberal Hillary bias in the media...... Post by: Opmod on November 22, 2007, 08:21:22 AM Everywhere DogFace looks, he sees conspiracies and biases against his even-handed, moderate, mainstream ideology. I wonder why? While I would tend to agree that Dog Face is extreme in his views the same could very nearly be said about you JPN. Title: Re: Yup no liberal Hillary bias in the media...... Post by: jpn of Seattle on November 22, 2007, 08:53:50 AM The media has a very silly, imho, view of what it means to be "tough" on a candidate.
When an interviewer is being "tough", it usually means they are playing some stupid game of gotcha: "15 years ago last Tuesday you said 'x' and now you're saying 'y'. Why the flip-flop?" Or they insist that the politician answer a complex question "yes or no." What I'd just love to see is some day a media figure say something like: "You claim that x is true, but the facts are y. Why do you insist on x?"
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