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1  Political Discussions / United States / Re: Condy is sexual minority hope! on: December 08, 2007, 01:17:13 PM
Admin. May I reply yet?
2  Political Discussions / United States / Re: Youtube Republican Debate on: December 07, 2007, 10:43:11 PM
Ugh...look where you've dragged me. Hey Sorry, JPN...Merry Christmas, buddy.
 I really don't even understand the insult, but I love a good joke....maybe it went under my head.
3  Political Discussions / Middle East / Re: The Iraqi Solution on: December 07, 2007, 10:10:08 PM
no member state was authorized to demand the removal of Iraqi government and exercize force upon such demand. Do u still not understand that?

I told you what I don't understand, and that is from what legal authority, over coalition or US forces, do you get that from? When you ratify a resolution specifically for the purpose authorizing the use of military force to enforce a resolution by any means necessary and pass a law calling for regime change in Iraq....You're not leaving much loophole room, but please go ahead. I still do not understand...your opinion I get. how it bears on the legality of the Iraq war, I do not. Make me know.

What would the biggest opponent in our government of the Iraq war say?

"We stopped the fighting [in 1991] on an agreement that Iraq would take steps to assure the world that it would not engage in further aggression and that it would destroy its weapons of mass destruction.  It has refused to take those steps.  That refusal constitutes a breach of the armistice which renders it void and justifies resumption of the armed conflict."   
   Senator Harry Reid (Democrat, Nevada)
   Addressing the US Senate
   October 9, 2002

now there's a crazy coincedence..what are the chances he and I would agree on anything?? unless of course there was just no argument.
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Whereas United Nations Security Council Resolution 678 (1990) authorizes the use of all necessary means to enforce United Nations Security Council Resolution 660 (1990) and subsequent relevant resolutions and to compel Iraq to cease certain activities that threaten international peace and security, including the development of weapons of mass destruction and refusal or obstruction of United Nations weapons inspections in violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 687 (1991), repression of its civilian population in violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 688 (1991), and threatening its neighbors or United Nations operations in Iraq in violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 949 (1994);

Whereas in the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution (Public Law 102-1), Congress has authorized the President `to use United States Armed Forces pursuant to United Nations Security Council Resolution 678 (1990) in order to achieve implementation of Security Council Resolution 660, 661, 662, 664, 665, 666, 667, 669, 670, 674, and 677;

Whereas in December 1991, Congress expressed its sense that it `supports the use of all necessary means to achieve the goals of United Nations Security Council Resolution 687 as being consistent with the Authorization of Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution (Public Law 102-1),' that Iraq's repression of its civilian population violates United Nations Security Council Resolution 688 and `constitutes a continuing threat to the peace, security, and stability of the Persian Gulf region,' and that Congress, `supports the use of all necessary means to achieve the goals of United Nations Security Council Resolution 688';

Whereas the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 (Public Law 105-338) expressed the sense of Congress that it should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove from power the current Iraqi regime and promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime;

Whereas the President has authority under the Constitution to take action in order to deter and prevent acts of international terrorism against the United States, as Congress recognized in the joint resolution on Authorization for Use of Military Force (Public Law 107-40); and

Whereas it is in the national security interests

Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This joint resolution may be cited as the `Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002'.

SEC. 2. SUPPORT FOR UNITED STATES DIPLOMATIC EFFORTS.

The Congress of the United States supports the efforts by the President to--

(1) strictly enforce through the United Nations Security Council all relevant Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq and encourages him in those efforts; and

(2) obtain prompt and decisive action by the Security Council to ensure that Iraq abandons its strategy of delay, evasion and noncompliance and promptly and strictly complies with all relevant Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq.

SEC. 3. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.

(a) AUTHORIZATION- The President is authorized to use the Armed Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and appropriate in order to--

(1) defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and

(2) enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq.
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The voting record made this a mile long.....





4  Political Discussions / United States / Re: Youtube Republican Debate on: December 07, 2007, 09:16:32 PM
No...I'd be the one who could both kick everybody's ass AND laugh at you for getting a C on that biology test.
5  Political Discussions / United States / Re: Youtube Republican Debate on: December 07, 2007, 09:13:41 PM
It's really quite simple, you see..it's not free heath care because everybody pays for it with the taxes that make it cheaper.....
Who is this, Nigel Tufnel?
6  Political Discussions / United States / Re: Supporting the Troops on: December 07, 2007, 09:05:15 PM
"…the idea that we're going to win the war in Iraq is an idea which is just plain wrong,"
-Howard Dean

"...this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime--Pol Pot or others--that had no concern for human beings. Sadly, that is not the case. This was the action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners."
-Dick Durbin

I don't agree with that. But I think what we need to do is recognize what we all agree on, which is, you've got to begin to set benchmarks for accomplishment; you've got to begin to transfer authority to the Iraqis, and there is no reason, Bob, that young American soldiers need to be going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children, you know, women, breaking sort of the customs of the -- of -- of -- of -- historical customs, religious customs, whether you like it or not. Iraqis should be doing that. And after all of these two and a half years, with all –
-John Kerry

"Absolutely, we're the target. We're the enemy"
-John Murtha

Asked during an interview broadcast Monday night if he would "join the military today," the decorated Vietnam combat veteran told "ABC's Nightline" - "No."
-John Murtha

"It [Haditha, Marines] is as bad as Abu Ghraib, if not worse."
(Murtha)

"They [the Marines/Military] knew the day after this happened that it was not as they portrayed it. They knew that they (marines) went into the rooms, they killed the people in the taxi. There was no firing at all. And this comes from the highest authority in the Marine Corps, so there's no question in my mind,"
(Murtha)

"... they [Marines] killed innocent civilians in cold blood."
(Murtha)

"There was no firefight. There was no IED that killed these innocent people. Our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them, and they killed innocent civilians in cold blood"
(Murtha)

"They actually went into the houses and killed women and children. And there was about twice as many as originally reported by Times."
(Murtha)

"Our troops over-reacted because of the pressure on them, and they killed innocent civilians in cold blood."
(Murtha)

"It's [Haditha, Marines] much worse than reported in Time magazine."
(Murtha)

"“I’m endorsing what Mr. Murtha is saying...I believe that a majority of our caucus clearly supports Mr. Murtha"
-pelosi

"If you mean dying in the course of the United Nations effort, yes, it is worth that. If you mean dying American troops unilaterally going in with some false presumption that we can affect the outcome, the answer is unequivocally no."
-Kerry

"You know education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well, and if you don’t you get stuck in Iraq.”
-kerry

“The Iraqi war is hopeless"
Harry Reid

"Islamic State Of Iraq: The Cross Worshippers And Their Henchmen Plans Have Collapsed.
As usual, this was followed by a swift visit by the new (American) Defense Minister “Gates” who said, “The American support to the Maliki government is not unlimited”, insinuating that the American administration is impatient with the Maliki government that is incapable of handling the strikes of the Mujahideen. This comes on the heels of an important statement by House Majority Leader Harry Reid who previously said, “The Iraqi war is hopeless and the situation in Iraq is same as it was in Vietnam.”\\
-Al Qadea quoting Harry Reid
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compared to:


"I cannot say enough about the U.S. Army and Marines who are carrying most of the fight for us in Iraq. They are courageous, smart, effective, innovative, very honorable and very proud. After a Thanksgiving meal with a great group of Marines at Camp Fallujah in western Iraq, I asked their commander whether the morale of his troops had been hurt by the growing public dissent in America over the war in Iraq. His answer was insightful, instructive and inspirational: "I would guess that if the opposition and division at home go on a lot longer and get a lot deeper it might have some effect, but, Senator, my Marines are motivated by their devotion to each other and the cause, not by political debates."
-Joe Liberman,
             Democratic outcast whose re-election bid  for Conn. Sen.was rejected by his party in favormoveon.org-sponsored Ned Lamont because liberman spoke out against criticizism of the president in a time of war.

He later said this about his former party...

""I know I'm taking a position that is not popular within the party, but that is a challenge for the party -- whether it will accept diversity of opinion or is on a kind of crusade or jihad of its own to have everybody toe the line. No successful political party has ever done that."
 -Lieberman


SAD







7  Political Discussions / Middle East / Re: Iran Not a Nuke Threat After All on: December 07, 2007, 11:53:38 AM
I know where I have taken those comments from. No need for you to point it out. That's is why I have put the comments in inverted commas incase you haven't noticed. 


Did you really put those there? Do you really admire people who speak the truth?

8  Political Discussions / Middle East / Re: Iran Not a Nuke Threat After All on: December 07, 2007, 11:45:51 AM
So?Huh? The INSI mistranslated their own president because you don't like me?
Or, am I correct in translating your gibberish to mean that you give Sedaei more credibility than every major news outlet on Earth because he speaks the truth and people like me don't like it....
Is that the basis of your position?...Don't you mean to say the INSI has an anti-Iranian agenda? Since I never have said we should attack Iran, and since this mistranslation, which in your truth-searching mind equates to an agenda, is theirs and not mine?
You are a product of the misinformation ripple effect, every major news media outlet on Earth probably is not. I think that makes perfect sense without hinting at an agenda.

Rhetorical Nonsense...YOU OFFER RHETORIC..Ad hominem, baseless BS about what YOU think of me..Nothing more...which is the hallmark of a clueless internet warrior with a grudge or agenda.I offered the official translation from the very same government that uttered the words being translated.

Nobody beats the Iranian war drums louder than those with an agenda....for instance you.

That...or my original thought that you have no clue because you choose not to might be it...One sure-fire way to find out....
Please Reply.



9  Political Discussions / United States / Re: Youtube Republican Debate on: December 07, 2007, 10:08:04 AM
It would also explain, or at least highlight the stiff cost of insurance and the vast difference in people's insurace vs. financial health...and their freedon...that's right I said it... to make a choice between the two.
10  Political Discussions / United States / Re: Youtube Republican Debate on: December 07, 2007, 10:01:34 AM
not a dig at you.
11  Political Discussions / United States / Re: Youtube Republican Debate on: December 07, 2007, 09:59:53 AM
Easy with the true colors, buddy....somebody might see!


I have zero dollars...How do I fit into Universal healthcare?

I also have brain cancer and just spent what money I had by having Van Halen play at my birthday party....anyhoo...i'm ready for my treatment...Where do I sign?


Well the brain cancer does explain why you would want Van Halen to play at your birthday.  It also explains why you have no money in the health care world of today.


Lucky I'm the only one, huh?
12  Political Discussions / United States / Re: Youtube Republican Debate on: December 07, 2007, 09:56:59 AM
Easy with the true colors, buddy....somebody might see!


I have zero dollars...How do I fit into Universal healthcare?

I also have brain cancer and just spent what money I had by having Van Halen play at my birthday party....anyhoo...i'm ready for my treatment...Where do I sign?
13  Political Discussions / Middle East / Re: Iran Not a Nuke Threat After All on: December 07, 2007, 09:43:04 AM
Kactus...What you offer is translation by a man named Sam Sedaei. who is a blogger on huffington post and democrats.org
What I offer is a translation by a major, official, Iranian news agency with 1000's of employees, correspondents and volunteers, and as much legitimacy in the western world as an iranian news agency can possibly get.

I'm curious...What  gives Sam Sedaei, the huffington post, and informationliberation.com more credibility in your mind than that of INSI and ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, CNN, Reuters, AP, IHT, AFP, Al jazeera, etc, etc, etc...ad infinitum.........?


You have no clue because you choose not to.
14  Political Discussions / United States / Re: Neighbor shot and killed Burglars on: December 07, 2007, 07:40:17 AM
A Burglar is a theif who entered a structure.
A Robber is a theif who came in contact with a person (even in a structure) We have about 300,000 of those on the news each year.

Armed burglars tend to be theives who enter a structure with a gun, but many, if not the majority, are theives who entered a structure and stole a gun.

Theives, guns and durgs...The problem is the mix...I think you can only narrow it down so far.
15  Political Discussions / United States / Re: Youtube Republican Debate on: December 07, 2007, 07:13:44 AM
 Free lunch under federal gunpoint sounds delicious...what if I'm not hungry?

Another model of our current system, only cheaper.
You still get what you pay for.


nonetheless...You can't get me signed up fast enough. I'm going back for seconds, maybe thirds. I can't wait to have a man who spent 200K of his own money on his PhD give my hangnail an MRI.
Seriously..I can't wait for free healthcare...or at least get more than i pay for...that works....at least for me.

Honestley...I mean that.

I'll be expecting my retirement some day soon as well, you might want to start knocking down some OT.
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