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Political Discussions / Middle East / Re: Pakistan Presidentials
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on: September 02, 2008, 01:20:35 PM
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Yeah, but there aren't only you yankees who have money to iinvest (if you still have any now that your banks coffers are empty). So far nobody seems to put a dime in the US stock market. I think the Islamabad stock exchange won't be that "abad" next years. BTW, quoting doesn't work because of 'an internal service error'.  --> We are working hard on that. (no, just kidding  we don't do anything.)
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Political Discussions / Middle East / Pakistan Presidentials
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on: September 01, 2008, 10:30:30 AM
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The election of the new Pakistanese president will be IMO a major turn for Pakistan. It will be the first "democraticaly elected" (thought not elected directly by poeple votes). It must not bad for the future of the country and its economy. Let's hope peace returns to these troubled parts of the world: Lebanon, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan etc "The Jihad Belt", "The Army Fatigue Road". Pakistan's presidential election next week will be a three-way tussle between the country's main parties after the Election Commission on Saturday issued a final list of candidates. Asif Ali Zardari, the widower of assassinated former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, looks likely to win the September 6 vote by legislators for a replacement for Pervez Musharraf, who resigned as president last week.
Investors, their confidence shattered by political upheaval and militant violence, are hoping the presidential election will bring an end to uncertainty and usher in more stable politics.
Pakistan's stock market, which rose for six consecutive years to 2007 and was one of the best-performing markets in Asia in that period, has fallen about 36 percent this year. article
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Social Discussions / Philosophy and Religion / Re: Artworks of desecration
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on: August 31, 2008, 02:58:05 PM
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First, in the conetemporary art world, it's impossible for an artist to be shown let alone win an award if he makes mockery of judaic symbols. (One exception is when he/she is visibly a jew hinself.)
Second it's pleasant for the art world to see desecration of christian symbols for a variety of reasons: kitch culture, gay pride, unbeliefs of the jews in the christian myths, intello-leftism, sensationalist wannabe etc.
Sure an artist who would joke about judaism would pass for a neo-nazy immediately. But it's not only that.
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Political Discussions / Middle East / Re: Case study on hostage situation...what would you do?
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on: August 29, 2008, 11:25:09 AM
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Since their demand are irrealistical and totaly impossible to be delivered whatever the political decision might be, I'd say, talks to them with false promises until a team comes to freee the hostage.
Two scenarios: 1/ They realy kill an hostage every hour --> Immediate intervention (after, say, 3 or 4 hours) 2/ They don't but keep on treathening to do so --> More talks and negotiations. Eventualy the group surrender with a promise of immunity except for the one who shot the killed hostage. Or intervention when the team is ready.
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Political Discussions / Middle East / Re: Possible US Interest's Section in Tehran?
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on: August 28, 2008, 12:15:06 PM
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I think it's quite possible that if Obama is elected, the Iranians will make a deal to halt their nuclear program for incentives much in the same way that they released the hostages to Reagan the second the Carter term was up.
There are just too many reasons for Iran to normalize relations with the US right now, but the Persians will never make a deal with Bush. It will make it look like they backed down. Instead, they will make it look like they have come to an agreement with Obama.
If Iran does this, they will instantly be looked at as a more rational actor in the Middle East and their path to hegemony of the region will be furthered.
Now if Syria and Israel can come to a peace agreement, this could further push another nations in the ME, including Iran, to a path of peace with Israel and the two big roadblocks to Iranian hegemony would be settled.
Good point, Zenter.
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Social Discussions / Philosophy and Religion / Artworks of desecration
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on: August 28, 2008, 11:49:55 AM
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Idiot contemporary art non sens. An Italian museum on Thursday defied Pope Benedict and refused to remove a modern art sculpture portraying a crucified green frog holding a beer mug and an egg that the Vatican had condemned as blasphemous. The board of the Museion museum in the northern city of Bolzano decided by a majority vote that the frog was a work of art and would stay in place for the remainder of an exhibition.
The wooden sculpture by the late German artist Martin Kippenberger depicts a frog about 1 meter 30 cm (4 feet) high nailed to brown cross and holding a beer mug in one outstretched hand and an egg in another.
Called "Zuerst die Fuesse," (Feet First), it wears a green loin cloth and is nailed through the hands and the feet in the manner of Jesus Christ. Its green tongue hangs out of its mouth.  "Art must always be free and the artist should not have any restrictions on freedom of expression," sourceYeah, I wonder what he would say if it was a star of david. Try to exhibit a desecrated star of David in a modern art museum and you will see.
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Political Discussions / Middle East / Re: 90 afghan civilians killed by coalition
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on: August 27, 2008, 03:03:31 PM
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I'v read something different: Nearly 700 civilians were killed in the first six months of this year, 255 of them by Afghan government and international troops, the rest by Taliban militants, the United Nations says That's 445 civilians killed by the Talibans against 255 by the Afghans and the coalition. What is unacceptable is that the Afghans and the coalition killed more than half civilians by NOT targeting civilians than the Taliban are killing BY targeting them...
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Political Discussions / Europe and Asia / Re: War : Georgia vs Russia
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on: August 20, 2008, 11:38:39 AM
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But it is a waste to attempt to do so on a forum that values argument far more than information. LOL, and you call yur articles "information"? It's not because they are Israelis or British that they convince me. Nothing in these articles shows that Israel has a political agenda in Georgia. So let's say Israel has sold weapons to Georgia and maybe sent a few technicians to teach how to use them (by no means the hundreds of military trainers on the battlefield previousely reported). So what? They do that with everybody who buy weapons from them. After routing Georgia over the breakaway enclaves of South Ossetia and Abkhazia, Moscow appears to be eying Poland, the Middle East, and possibly Ukraine, as the main arenas for its reprisals. Again, oversimplification and total ignorance in geography and european politics. The Ossietian and Abkhazian conflict are local business with no link to the external world (I mean the group of hills where the shoot-outs happen). Georgia is far from being in Nato, the missile shield in Poland is far from being build (I know Poland), and Russia is not going to change their attitude with their main trading partner just because the Georgian mafia godfather has shelled Ossetian civilians. PiermatoZwoI agree with you. Shaakashvili has made a big mistake. IMO, what an idiot. First he should have known that he had no chance against the Russian army. Second South Ossetians are pro-russians, he had no support in the local population, especialy after he bombarded them. IMO, he is very lucky it's the moderate Medvediev who is president, otherwise Russian soldiers would have occupied the whole Geogia and started a Chechen style conflict.
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Political Discussions / Europe and Asia / Re: War : Georgia vs Russia
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on: August 19, 2008, 12:12:07 PM
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CassHow long are your going to post articles which are less and less relevant to your claims of Israel involvement? This string of articles which you post and which I read is going nowhere. Yourself, you are not able to say something coherent. It's so vague and confusing, that I still don't know what we have to open our eyes upon. One article said that Israel had hundreds of military instructors in Georia, which from all evidences is not true. And I still don't know what Israel would do there. Israel which is struggling with Hezbullah and Hamas, certainly won't want to mess with Russia for some inter-village vendettas in Georgia... mdmaCass is "she", not "he". She has a prodigious imagination, but I can't follow it, it's too far fetched this time... 
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Political Discussions / Europe and Asia / Re: War : Georgia vs Russia
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on: August 18, 2008, 02:36:11 PM
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Cass
I'v been reading the whole articles. Yet I still wonder why you posted them. The first is irrelevant (it's talking of some Iran oil being purchased indirectly by israel - Interrsting but nothing to do with the Georgian conflict)
The second is plain BS: Why would Israel be behind a conflict which precisely shut down the pipeline supposed to bring them oil? It's Shaakashvili who attacked Ossetia first and it was very bad for the multinational consortium operating the pipeline. Probably for that reason Shaakashvili didn't get the US support he expected. he goofed with oil and now the West arranged a cease-fire behind his back. Secondly, the article pretends to let me believe that Israel would have been involved in a conflict AGAINST Russia? And about oil on top of that? Come on...
The Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline is providing oil to a wide range of countries, via a wide range of companies, each owning from 2 to 12% stakes in the pipeline. Israel is at best a small partner here. Israel uses maybe 0.3% of this oil. And you talk as if the pipeline was build for them. Absurd.
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