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16  Assistance and Feedback / Suggestions and Feedback / Re: Applaud/smite on: October 20, 2007, 06:07:38 PM
I don't take the applaud smite thing seriously, it's a game.  That is all a game.  It doesn't reflect who we are as individuals or as posters. 
17  Social Discussions / Philosophy and Religion / Re: Combining Religions! Is it feasible? on: October 20, 2007, 04:00:12 PM
Well...meditation is often associated with Buddhism, and I used to "meditate" during Yoga (kept my mind off the pain).

I think certain "positive" elements of different religions may be called upon...I think the crux of the matter is who you pray to, and how you perceive your "salvation" to be obtained....


yup I would have to agree with you Patton
18  Social Discussions / Philosophy and Religion / Re: debating for knowledge or for freedom of speech on: October 20, 2007, 12:55:51 PM
And what happens when someone says their ideas are actually facts and the only facts acceptable?


then I personally would want to have proof inorder to back these so called facts

What about faith?

can you have facts for faith?  there are no facts for love, it's just a feeling.  Truth is we all have faith, where we chose to use and direct our faith is a different story.  But when I drive I have faith that those in the other lane aren't gonna cross over the double yellow and hit me.  I have faith that when I am out walking someone isn't gonna run me over.

But can I really base my beliefs on faith and faith alone?  By that logic one could potentially state that those who are atheist or agnostic also have a level of faith to believe what they would.

Or are you saying that faith is only for those that believe that there is a God and a bible and Jesus?
19  Social Discussions / Philosophy and Religion / Re: What do Christians agree on? on: October 20, 2007, 12:51:13 PM
D9 first of all you cannot lump all people who believe in a God into the category of a Christian.

Secondly I agree that the bible has been interpreted by man, thus creating flaws in it.  I would be ignorant to not believe that. 

I think it would be safe to say that ALL who believe in a God believe in prayer and faith.

Being an optimist I must say that for me I would hope that it wouldn't matter so much on judgment day who you thought God to be, I would hope that there would be an opportunity to chose and to believe.  If all I have heard about God is to be true then this certainly could be an option.

But really I just don't know, and I don't know how to know. 

I believe in God, and Jesus, I believe in the concept of the Bible and that it's mostly true.  I also believe that I must have faith to see more than there is and that I must pray to achieve a greater understanding.

I still have my questions and my doubts and I still am not impressed with what I perceive man has done to it.
20  Social Discussions / Philosophy and Religion / Re: debating for knowledge or for freedom of speech on: October 20, 2007, 12:38:07 PM
And what happens when someone says their ideas are actually facts and the only facts acceptable?


then I personally would want to have proof inorder to back these so called facts
21  Assistance and Feedback / The Lobbyist (Off Topic) / Re: Drunken Posts! on: October 20, 2007, 12:13:22 PM
who said that BBW was at home all alone getting drunk??  did you ask him what he was doing when he got drunk?  I did and you don't know the whole story!
22  Social Discussions / Sports and Entertainment / Re: What are you listening to? on: October 19, 2007, 11:47:06 PM
Reel Big fish

*giggles*
23  Assistance and Feedback / The Lobbyist (Off Topic) / Re: Word Association Game on: October 19, 2007, 02:44:40 PM
selfish
24  Assistance and Feedback / The Lobbyist (Off Topic) / Re: IAP Grand Prix on: October 19, 2007, 02:34:37 PM


oh that's gold... we would all get a post count boost in there!

Especially with a couple of our recent arrivals.

One of our recent departures would have contributed a bit as well, I can imagine.


one would think that to be the case... yes yes one would.
25  Social Discussions / Sports and Entertainment / Re: What are you listening to? on: October 19, 2007, 02:31:07 PM
Evanescence My Immortal
26  Assistance and Feedback / The Lobbyist (Off Topic) / Re: Word Association Game on: October 19, 2007, 02:28:01 PM
gorgeous
27  Assistance and Feedback / The Lobbyist (Off Topic) / Re: IAP Grand Prix on: October 19, 2007, 02:26:50 PM
Oswald. And he's done that with being away for like 2 weeks.

Ah sorry, I thought you meant the other ozzy  Sad

Well, you have the mod section which is your turbo boost, you should be able to burn him off.  Smiley

Start a new thread about civil behaviour or something like that. You can reply back and forth and build up your post count that way.



oh that's gold... we would all get a post count boost in there!
28  Social Discussions / Philosophy and Religion / Re: debating for knowledge or for freedom of speech on: October 19, 2007, 01:03:06 PM
oh sorry my comment about facts wasn't directed at you it was directed at this forum (P&R specific)

I was just frustrated with it all.


I suppose you're correct in your debate of ideas and of course P&R would be more so a debate of ideas.
29  Social Discussions / Philosophy and Religion / Re: debating for knowledge or for freedom of speech on: October 19, 2007, 12:31:02 PM
I always find it interesting to wander into the P&R forum, so many varying people and points of view, so much passion.  We're so much alike in so many ways as we debate the existence or lack there of, of a God.

Yes it's comical in some ways as it always seems to boil down to

God ~ as in the Christian version of God
Agnostic & 
Atheism

we don't seem to spend much time discussing other religions, it's always where you sit in the field.

Are you in God's court, or the Atheism court OR are you on the fence meaning you haven't decided but really you have because by not deciding there is a God it means you have chosen the other camp, whether you believe it or not. 


And for what it's worth it NEVER EVER EVER seems to matter what the topic title is as it will always be the same people and it will always boil down to the same thing.  A new spin of words but essentially they are the same.

So really then if it's always the same then why the debate?  Have you found some new information?  Are you wanting new information?  hhhmmm that would mean you would actually be looking for knowledge, yet that I have hardly seen in these parts.  It's all seems to boil down to your freedom of speech.  It all boils down to what you think you need to say to back your stance (it doesn't matter what camp you belong to as you're all the same).  Like you have a right to share even when people don't want that they are looking for something new.

I have to wonder if ever someone will actually sit back and take in what they read, meditate on it for a bit before they spew their pre recorded response.  I some how doubt this.  I so wish that we as a mature and educated people would take in what others have to say and consider it before they actually react.

Just my thought.  So why are you here I ask?  Is it for knowledge and understanding or is it for your right to share whatever you please regardless of what others have to say about it?

What's the purpose of any debate tara?

Should we just close down IAP because people are debating rather than 'meditating' on other people's POV?

For me, the purpose of debating here is to test my beliefs against other people's ideas as well as just for the sake of debating.


the purpose of a debate is to state your facts and make them believable (I suck at debating)

I think a healthy debate is good.  Yet here there is nothing healthy about the debate b/c they are not debating facts they are attacking ideas.  If they want to debate then good on you, but where is a good debate here?  Specifically here in the P&R forum.

Where are the facts to back your claims? 

IamMe I like your reasoning for as to why you debate or share or whatever. 
30  Assistance and Feedback / The Lobbyist (Off Topic) / Re: Things that piss you off.... on: October 19, 2007, 09:17:12 AM
you could try being an A-hole to get one of these nice pretty girls and then when you know they are into you, you could be the nice guy you're claiming to be now..... lol.....

those girls are dysfunctional at best you wanna really leave them alone and find someone you really like.
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