Wow....Your choices all look bad.

Could it be that your ducking days are over?

Abdallah cannot turn his back to the west or his throne will be in jeopardy.

Does he have the ability to control the street?

You'd better start praying the war ends soon, because if Hamas loses.....no telling what will happen in the Arab street.

Did you research that or did you just assume that it was Hamas who started it all?

Because

a) If you did research that, you would have known that by Israel's own admission, it was they who broke the ceasefire back in november and as a result, the rocket fires began.

or

b) you immediately jumped to the conclusion that "without those rockets, Israel would not be committing any crimes" without bothering, which means


People who always defend Hamas actions are not always right, but those who always accuse Hamas are not any better either 

Do you know the current distribution in the Lebanese government.

I would say the major gain of Hizbullah after the failed Israeli war  was political

I did read your sources. Can you please quote where in your sources, it says that Hamas broke the ceasefire and fired any rockets?

But your sources do say that Hamas reinforced the ceasefire:



And regarding your July 3, 2008 quote you are so happy about it was Al Aqsa brigades who opened fire and what did Hamas do?


So HAMAS did not break the ceasefire between them and Israel, and took action when others did at the risk of internal war inside Gaza. This is how far Hamas went to protect the ceasfire. It held its part of the deal.

Now did Israel?

While you quote July, answer my question: Why would Israel say this in November:


If the operation will NOT be seen as a violation of a ceasefire?

RM, you don't believe it when Hamas says it, believe it when Israel does. The above statement screams "Guilty"

1- Hizbullah's objectives during the war was not to launch a ground operation into Israel so they did not have to pull out.
2- Israel did not pull out from Lebanon either, because it never succeeded in getting in 

Tell that to Winograd dear, when I talk about Israeli failures, I get them from Israeli sources 

But maybe Israelis never lose   

And would you say achieving your objectives is winning? Because as I recall, the prisoner swap Hizbullah requested and which was the reason behind the prisoner operation was achieved.


As I said, check my sources dear. The Winograd report, the National Security Council report...When you see me quoting Al Manar, then your post above will make sense 

Repeating this post over and over again will not make it any more credible.



Unless you know or a willing to learn the difference between Hamas and Al Aqsa Brigaeds, stop wasting my time and bandwidth.


November 4, 2008


And aswer my question: Why would Irael state in November that they have no intention of breaking a ceasefire THAT YOU CLAIM DOES NOT EXIST?

Sure Fred. You are absolutely right. What was I thinking?

How can they do that when the whole world is so clearly on their side?!!

They cannot risk destroying their picture perfect image! Hey....people can even go so far as to call them terrorists!!!

It's clearly a PR problem. Thanks for clearing that up Fred? Wow....It all makes sense now.

Even the Winograd report said Israel lost the war against Lebanon while most Arab muslims are still crying that Israel was not successful in this war 


Winograd report

You don't read much other than Israeli propaganda, do you?

You two are same as Celtic, only at the opposite side 

I don't ask why they did that.

I say that blowing up a tunnel and killing militants when there is a ceasefire is BREAKING THE CEASEFIRE.

New York Times Link

More from the same article November 15, 2008 about the Israeli operation on November 4 that broke the ceasefire

Lol....

http://www.itsallpolitics.com/forum/index.php?topic=3210.msg70382#msg70382

And LOL

http://www.itsallpolitics.com/forum/index.php?topic=3210.msg70329#msg70329

And

lol


Source: New York Time November 15, 2008 (I will put a link in a separte post to avoid this post being flagged as spam for too many links in it)

Why would Israel want to make it clear that they are not breaking the ceasefire if the ceasefire had been already broken by Hamas? And wouldn't crossing the borders, bombing a tunnel and killing palestinians when a ceasefire is in force be cosidered BREAKING A CEASEFIRE?

Or is it because Israel did it, we should all accept what Israel said and consider it an isolated incident?

May I ask what is your vision of these limits?

And what you suggest should happen to those who do not fall within these limits?

Which example are you referring to? Why the Christians are heroes and Hizbullah are terrorists?

Or is it the impotent sovereignty that caused you to support the totally unjustified illegal Iraq war?

Or is it that Israel's word cannot be trusted, that they break ceasefires and launch unjustified wars just like the best of them terrorists, but that depending on who does the breach, one is justified and the other is a terrorist? After what happened this past couple of weeks, would the palestinians be justified in not believing Israeli promises?

Defense establishment paper: Golan for Syria peace, plan for Iran strike

Israel facing grim threat assessment for ‘09

I take the word of the Israeli National Security Council over yours 

Not Hizbullah. The Shiites lost their homes and then they fought to take them back.


Yes it did. It even had allies that continuously asked her to remain there and sometimes fought by its side.

On October 13, 1990 it was asked by the Lebanese government recognized by the US as the legitimate Lebanese government after the Taef accords brokered by KSA and the US to invade what was left of the free Lebanon (Christian area).

It is the Christians who did NOT recognise that government and kept fighting.

It was all done with Lebanese "official" cover.

Syria was more justified than Israel in occupying Lebanon