I used to think that too... but then he flipped floped on torture.
I guess his "experience" changed over time... or maybe it was just senility
If that's how you view it, fine. I don't believe it was. He sustained the veto because he didn't want the intelligence community bound to the Army handbook rules - it wasn't an endorsement of torture. He made that clear in his public statements at the time. If you want to label it as a flip flop on that, go right ahead - it's a free country. It's wrong and inaccurate, but you go right ahead.
Yeah, that's Ms. Obama's biggest fear
. I'm reasonably sure it's actually losing her husband cause he's black and running for president in a country that STILL hasn't shaken its racism.
And I like how you just assume that the man's character has never been tested. Have you read his history? He grew up with a neglectful father and a mother that wasn't the same race. He traveled from place to place, gaining and losing friends and living from one extreme to another.
And his character was never tested?
That's all she bitches about - how hard it was for them as millionaire's to pay back their student loans. Boo hoo hoo. He grew up with a neglectful father, yes. (Dare one say a "typical black man" - oh wait, only Senator Obama can say racist statements about whites...).
Nope, his character was never tested in the way Senator McCain's was. That's the whole point.
I don't recall, "he's in the Senate" being my only comment.
McCain was a wealthy, upper class citizen with ridiculous connections in the US Navy and US political system; afforded a consistent education and a garunteed trip to college, plus security from sociatal ills.
Is it really a "personal accomplishment" that McCain rose from this bed of soft bed linens to become successful?
That's your response? That's not even what I said. Gracious. It's not a matter of where Senator McCain came from or his family background. It's a matter that he's paid a price for this country that Senator Obama hasn't even come close to. He's faced enemies in combat and led.
The best Senator Obama has done is lead the charge to politically corrupt funders who buy his house for him then, fund his campaign, and then are convicted of influence-peddling. Great leadership from the Empty Suit.
[Did you vote for President Bush in 2004 despite having spent 27% of his presidency on vacation?
Way to change the subject! 2004 is so... 2004? Address the issue at hand, won't you?
And you admitted yourself that McCain is also a flip flopper... so how can you legitmately criticise Obama as a "waffler", but in the same breath portray McCain like some pillar of immutable judgement?
I said that all politicians say politically expedient things. I didn't portray Senator McCain like a pillar of immutable judgment. Cite my posts that say otherwise.
No, that proves he's "run something" (i.e. a successful campaign), which was the original premise.
Not that he's more qualified then McCain.
Sorry, doesn't wash. If you think that's executive experience, I think you're sorely mistaken.
He's a husband and a father. He's also a human being.
He's made executive decisions that have effected the most important part of his life - his family. As a husband and father himself, McCain has also made important executive decisions, which I do not contend.
But both men are/were members of the legislature... so exactly what are we arguing about?
Their qualifications. Sorry, but being a husband and father aren't high on the list of Presidential qualifiers - they certainly don't distinguish him from 100 million others.
Oh for God's sake, I don't know the guy personally. I can't sit here and list his sacrafices
Exactly. But I can tell you what Senator McCain has sacrificed and I don't know him personally either. You can't list them because he doesn't have any. He's not very remarkable other than the undeserved and unearned allegiance of political followers.
Big difference. Are you familiar with Senator Obama's dealings with the convicted felon, Mr. Rezko?
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