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Political Discussions / Middle East / Re: Head scarves and education
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on: September 20, 2007, 12:30:26 AM
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if you allow head scarves then you must allow yamakas then you must allow bandannas and hats...its just a slippery slope IMO. I don't know about where you live but in the US hats and bandannas are screaming for gang violence.
IMO its a no go...it you daughter needs to wear a head scarf then go to a private school that will allow it. Its just not manageable in the public system.
Neo mate, There is a big difference from gang related and/or hats to a religion mandate. At least it is clearly delineated from my perspective. Warm regards Terry
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Political Discussions / Middle East / Re: Preferable Option for Iran Is a Popular Revolution
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on: September 19, 2007, 05:34:56 PM
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It's interesting to remember that Iran had a democracy from 1951 to 1953 but because they tried to nationlise their oil and pertoleum industries the UK combined with the USm overthrew the government and reinstalled the brutal Shah regime, which in turn led to the extremist regime that overthrew the Shah. Reap what you sow.
Wheat, corn, soybeans and Mullahs. 
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Political Discussions / Middle East / Re: Israel's attack on Syria analysis
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on: September 19, 2007, 02:37:47 PM
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1. Ron Paul is a fringe radical right idiot.
2. Coalition forces should leave the Mid-East unless requested for a good reason.
3. No one can stop 4,000+ years of Tribal Warfare, not the tribes of Israel, nor the Arabs or Shia and Sunni.
4. The World arms trade just HAS to be controlled.
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Political Discussions / Middle East / Re: Is the Wesy arrogant? -reply to CedarPride-
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on: September 19, 2007, 09:42:29 AM
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I may be against politicians, and politics, but I am never against soldiers. The West DOES create terror groups same as Syria and Iran or whatever and you know it. They can be created in a country where there is no military presence of the west to be their fighters by proxy, or they can be created because they can do what the regular army can't do even if militarily present. So when you arm thugs, you pretty well know beforehand that the killing and terrorizing of innocent people is a by-product of your creation and you do it anyway. Meaning, even if you think this is the ONLY way to do it, this does not remove the fact that you are STILL responsible for the death of innocent civilians by the groups you create. You KNOW they are going to use the same tactics used by your enemies (which is the reason you create them), those tactics you call terrorist. I don't think i denied this Cedar. In fact you said the same thing to me this thread, I quoted it and indicated I agreed. Ahk Ahk, I think we are all tired of this thread, so we all have some harmony let this one sink away please. :'(
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Assistance and Feedback / The Lobbyist (Off Topic) / Re: Business in Hypocrisy
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on: September 19, 2007, 09:35:23 AM
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If you drink Miller, then you're a homo anyways (no offense to the gay IAPers).
LOL, I take it you drink 'Near Beer' ROFLMAO, come'on man, everyone has 'is fav. Guinness is the go for me, now that's Beer, Bloody oath it is. Ach, the Irish got a knocker for that. Waugh!!!  Regards Terry
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Assistance and Feedback / The Lobbyist (Off Topic) / Re: Best Post/Quote of the Week
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on: September 19, 2007, 09:16:43 AM
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Karma: +8/-2 [applaud] [smite] Posts: 42
View Profile WWW Personal Message (Online) Re: Is the Wesy arrogant? -reply to CedarPride- « Reply #21 on: September 19, 2007, 03:23:01 PM » Reply with quote Quote from: OswaldTheOsprey on September 19, 2007, 10:34:20 AM What is arrogant is internationalism, globalism and interventionism. Wars result and the wrong people die and the wrong people get rich. An eternal tragedy and travesty.
OswaldTheOsprey
By GojiraApplaud for putting it the way it is...
We will have peace soon, when the fundamentalists reign is over...
This whole arguing about arrogance is what starts wars anyway.
We are human. We all want the same thing. When we can't have it we become confused. When we are confused we misunderstand. When we misunderstand we become fearful. We become scared of uncertainty. We get paranoid. We let our instincts overcome the best of us. We become self-interested. We invade. We conquer. To the winner all the spoils...
And even after all the death and destruction, we can't seem to realize that all we wanted was just a hug.
I was gobsmacked by this one. So eloquent and heartfelt!  Thank you Gojira and may you truly have Peace Terry
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Assistance and Feedback / The Lobbyist (Off Topic) / Re: Halloween
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on: September 19, 2007, 08:55:24 AM
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'Halloween' has over the years lost its true meaning of a Pagan holiday to celebrate a successful harvest and was called "All Hallows Eve".
Just thought it is interesting how some things change over time. Another is Christmas (Christ was actually borne several months later than Dec. 25) and Santa Claus or Saint Nicholas and 'Black Peter' (in Europe, especially Germany).
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Assistance and Feedback / The Lobbyist (Off Topic) / Re: Advice
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on: September 19, 2007, 08:33:20 AM
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Thanks folks, good advice all around.
I have not made a decision yet but I figure I will go. If only so that I do not have any regrets later.
I will know what is and will not have to think about what could have been
I had three 'stepfathers' after my mother divorced my badly alcoholic father. Mother raised me and my siblings without any help from my real father (notice I did not say 'Dad', because he never was). When I got my College Degree (cum laude), I was 22 and he approached me through my mother. I gave him a chance to see me and moved cross-country to meet my father I had not seen in years. I tried for a whole year being close by him and trying to understand a simple 'why?'. Needless to say, he was still a full blown alcoholic reduced to Vodka and water 20 hours a day. So yes, go see your father, but don't expect to find your Dad. At least then, you will know and will not have that demon to carry for YOUR lifetime. I hope you find peace with yourself. Kind regards Terry .
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Political Discussions / Middle East / Re: Truck of Explosives from Iran Siezed in Afghanistan
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on: September 18, 2007, 06:09:00 PM
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Well okay. But...
-They're sanctioned.
-They are surrounded.
-They already have justifiable reason to say their national sovereignty is threatened by the mere innuendo of a threat of retaliation for making a bomb in the first place. Who does not have the right to create this weapon for legitimate 'home defense'?
Ahk
That is a good question for the Mullahs that actually run Iran, being that their 'President' is just their mouthpiece. Regards Terry
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Political Discussions / Middle East / Re: Is the Wesy arrogant? -reply to CedarPride-
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on: September 18, 2007, 04:23:10 PM
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Well I'm not in complete agreement with her either.
However...the nasty question remains in my head like a wad of gum stuck under the desk, I can't dislodge it: when was the last time someone from North America or Australia for that matter, came home to a smoking shell hole?
Perspective is everything. Ahk
Bloody oath, yer spot on there mate! Warm regards Terry
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Political Discussions / Middle East / Re: Israel has a right to exist
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on: September 18, 2007, 04:18:59 PM
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I said basically the same thing at the end of the old thread. Israel has a responsibility to show restraint as well as attempts to get along with it's neighbors.
Are you holding your breath?  OswaldTheOsprey (snicker) Probably so Oswald, probably not even better!  Warm regards Terry
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