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Political Discussions / Middle East / Re: US Troops Kills Governor Son at Al Qaida's Meeting
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on: August 03, 2008, 03:50:32 AM
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Cass, you'll find that troops from any nationality on the ground have been well trained in watching for signs of aggression and dealing proactively with the perceived threat. No soldier wants to die, hence a very quick reaction from their training is appropriate. Sure mistakes are made, but not of the magnitude made if they didn't follow their reactive training. We must remember that War or combat is chaotic at the best and ghastly at the least. Simply put, the troops want to live and come home upright to their loved ones. Maybe the term you use,"the fog of war" is a condensation of my views above in part. Another part tells me as I noted above, is that the troops on the ground proactively react according to their training?? 
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Political Discussions / Middle East / Re: Prisoner Exchange
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on: August 01, 2008, 07:29:49 AM
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Welcoming back a known terrorist back speaks volumes for objectivity, for Kuntar was/is a known terrorist and that is fact. Terrorists kill. I don't quite understand why the Mid-East seems to thrive on violence as of late. I am glad the West engages the terrorists in the Mid-East, it keeps terrorists away from civilised areas of the world. 
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Political Discussions / Middle East / Re: Possible US Interest's Section in Tehran?
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on: July 29, 2008, 03:18:57 PM
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I think it's quite possible that if Obama is elected, the Iranians will make a deal to halt their nuclear program for incentives much in the same way that they released the hostages to Reagan the second the Carter term was up.
There are just too many reasons for Iran to normalize relations with the US right now, but the Persians will never make a deal with Bush. It will make it look like they backed down. Instead, they will make it look like they have come to an agreement with Obama.
If Iran does this, they will instantly be looked at as a more rational actor in the Middle East and their path to hegemony of the region will be furthered.
Now if Syria and Israel can come to a peace agreement, this could further push another nations in the ME, including Iran, to a path of peace with Israel and the two big roadblocks to Iranian hegemony would be settled.
*crosses fingers* ... Yes we can!
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Political Discussions / Middle East / Re: Possible US Interest's Section in Tehran?
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on: July 29, 2008, 03:48:51 AM
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Cass, There will be no attacks on Iran today, tomorrow, or ever. That would be like the Mid-East and the rest of the World slitting their collective wrists. There simply is too much at stake, and all the parties and possible parties well know it. Iranian leaders (who are Persians, not Arabs) are not as silly as their verbiage makes them out to be. If I am wrong on all this, we will have a clusterfeck of massive proportions. Again, time will provide the answers.  What we really need is a cautious but increasingly steady diplomatic engagement with Iran and it's people.
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Political Discussions / Middle East / Re: Possible US Interest's Section in Tehran?
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on: July 28, 2008, 09:08:49 AM
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Pisces, Obama essentially made McCain change his position on the issue because the American people (70% anyway) want out of Iraq. They are more concerned about the economy right now... "It's the economy, stupid" quote comes to mind. Also, billions and billions of dollars sink into a bottomless pit as well as the lives of brave young men. They do however, support the war on terror in Afghanistan and Pakistan...
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Political Discussions / Middle East / Re: Prisoner Exchange
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on: July 27, 2008, 06:48:23 AM
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I will be happy to explain. For two years, I talked to you with respect, then I decided to stoop to your level. You needed a language you could understand.
Now I wish you would keep your word and start ignoring my posts because I don't want to keep coming back.
What have I said that has been anywhere nearly as offensive as your hateful rhetoric? Go ahead, look up my posts, tell me what i've said that is so bad. Zenter, Cedar has a problem with Westerners in relation to the whole Mid-East thing. She thinks that we know little about it. Kind of sad, actually and she blames the problems with Lebanon on the West also. Lebanon was once known as the pearl of the Mid-East, tourism from all over the world. Now, nothing but an empty shell. But Zenter, Lebanon will return to its glory days sooner than you might think... even with the meddling of Syria, Hezbollah, and Iran. 
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Political Discussions / Middle East / Re: Prisoner Exchange
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on: July 26, 2008, 12:57:45 PM
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Fascinating MD! ... go on, you're telling the story. Be sure and add MOSSAD and your disinformation.  Don't forget to get two hats... one to crap in and the other to cover it up with. 
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Political Discussions / Middle East / Re: Prisoner Exchange
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on: July 26, 2008, 12:34:06 AM
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You know, I really don't see where you get off being such a grade A female dog Cedar. Name one thing I have said that compares to anything as disgusting as the blind, ignorant animal you are.
I will be happy to explain. For two years, I talked to you with respect, then I decided to stoop to your level. You needed a language you could understand. Now I wish you would keep your word and start ignoring my posts because I don't want to keep coming back. And that is supposed to bother us how? ... you flatter yourself dahling, but not too many others are taken in by your charades.
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Political Discussions / Middle East / Re: Prisoner Exchange
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on: July 25, 2008, 10:42:22 AM
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You are talking about Palestinians and Lebanese to have nuclear friend that will threaten Israeli ability to respond to terrorists from Palestine. Russia posses nuclear technology and helped it's allies to built nuclear technology inside their countries same as US. Which causes Pakistani-Indian cold war. It's far from Taliban thing, NO. You know nothing about Pakistani-Indian conflict. Other Pakistanis kill Indus. Not Al-Queda you think all terrorism is about.
Israeli PM's words were taken out of context. What Olmert was saying is that Israel is a civilized country that can aspire to have nuclear weapons unlike Iran that aspires but also having enough balls to threaten nation's existence.
You are passed any possible limit of stupidity. This ain't stupid anymore. Vents in the damn sand,,, hahah hilarious. You should stick along with Terry you both seem to have same intellectual abilities, Butters.
Any more 'words' of wisdom, oh wise one? 
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Political Discussions / Middle East / Re: Prisoner Exchange
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on: July 25, 2008, 09:20:03 AM
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Slow down cowboy! Indians never enjoyed Pakistani nuclear weapons simply because it allows Muslim radicals within Pakistan freely and unstoppable by government to blow off Indus. Same thing gonna happen with Iranian agent from Hezbollah and Hamas to blow off Israeli while Israelis won't be able to respond towards Lebanon or Palestine simply because those have nuclear weapons.
Good thing you never lived around cold war so you don't know how ppl in Soviet Union or Us felt like, so multiply it by knowledge that terrorists units within country with nuclear weapons can posses a nuclear weapon. Its like Chechens would overtake nuclear facility during cold war crisis. Stop being smart ass, ask any Indus what he/she feels towards Pakistan.
+ Israel doesn't posses a nuclear weapons, unless of course you believe Elvis was an alien or John Lennon got killed because of his views by FBI.
Hold on here md! Israel not only has a Nuke, but hundreds of them. They have some in South Africa as well. 
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Political Discussions / Middle East / Re: Prisoner Exchange
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on: July 24, 2008, 04:41:00 PM
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Crypto,
Sometimes Cedar is overly sensitive and cannot clearly see the other side of the coin. Maybe she is embittered about something but it won't wash with me either. Cedar and her people are NOT the only ones to suffer. Both my countries have and are suffering even as I write this (dual citizenship, U.S. and Australian).
I hope Cedar stops with the attempted emotional blackmail and thinks about others who suffer...
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Political Discussions / Middle East / Re: Prisoner Exchange
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on: July 24, 2008, 09:37:16 AM
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We also realise that women in Lebanese society are subservient to men. You are equal here and you don't have to overcompensate.
Is Cedar a woman? I didn't even know. Nor is it an issue if that's what she thinks.  That's because, unlike the person who made that post, you don't have issues with women. I hadn't even read that post  . I skip some posters without bothering looking at what they say. I won't anymore. I missed all the entertainment. Well till next time in a few months..... You're right Cedar, some people just need to pay attention and mature just a little bit.  ... have fun in Jenin.  There are some that are prejudiced against women and other groups here and I'm not one of them. Heck half my family is U.S. borne Lebanese, also some from Jenin. 
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Political Discussions / Middle East / Re: Prisoner Exchange
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on: July 23, 2008, 11:09:10 AM
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MDMA, what town do you live in? I know another Israeli in another Forum named Cohen that lives in Haifa. And what do you think of the so called 'truce' that is mostly holding so far?
So far, I have not heard of anyone taken prisoner while the truce holds.
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