You fit the classification. You take everything 100% literally.

I always find it interesting to wander into the P&R forum, so many varying people and points of view, so much passion.  We're so much alike in so many ways as we debate the existence or lack there of, of a God.

Yes it's comical in some ways as it always seems to boil down to

God ~ as in the Christian version of God
Agnostic & 
Atheism

we don't seem to spend much time discussing other religions, it's always where you sit in the field.

Are you in God's court, or the Atheism court OR are you on the fence meaning you haven't decided but really you have because by not deciding there is a God it means you have chosen the other camp, whether you believe it or not. 


And for what it's worth it NEVER EVER EVER seems to matter what the topic title is as it will always be the same people and it will always boil down to the same thing.  A new spin of words but essentially they are the same.

So really then if it's always the same then why the debate?  Have you found some new information?  Are you wanting new information?  hhhmmm that would mean you would actually be looking for knowledge, yet that I have hardly seen in these parts.  It's all seems to boil down to your freedom of speech.  It all boils down to what you think you need to say to back your stance (it doesn't matter what camp you belong to as you're all the same).  Like you have a right to share even when people don't want that they are looking for something new.

I have to wonder if ever someone will actually sit back and take in what they read, meditate on it for a bit before they spew their pre recorded response.  I some how doubt this.  I so wish that we as a mature and educated people would take in what others have to say and consider it before they actually react.

Just my thought.  So why are you here I ask?  Is it for knowledge and understanding or is it for your right to share whatever you please regardless of what others have to say about it?

No offence Barnes, but I must admit I have seen classier and better taste avatars in my time.

I am saying it is utterly ridiculous to believe you know that everything does or does not happen for a reason simply because one can't quite "reason it out".

The traditional meaning for atheist dates many hundreds of years back and was intended to be distinct from both theist and agnostic.  That you folks insist on a redefinition that groups the traditional atheist with the traditional agnostic is the root of this debate.  What is the motivation for conflating these terms and attempting to subsume agnostics into the ranks of atheists?

Decision have to be made and they are not always pleasant. What do you know of Eugenic history? Are you aware that Presidents Theodore Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson endorsed the concept as did Margaret Sanger, the great birth control pioneer, H.G. Wells, George Bernard Shaw and other great and notable intellects. One of the problems facing Eugenics today is two loud and ruthless opponents it faces-the politically correct left and the religious right. Hopefully, the days are numbered for both of these arrogant bullies. Hopefully, sane and rational thought will prevail.

OswaldTheOsprey

Just think of all the pollution that could be spewed out from an incinerator....

Well, considering that most of Tool's music is taken straight from Ride The Lighting and Master of Puppets, I can't see how a Tool fan wouldn't like Metallica. It's like being a Green Day fan who doesn't like the Clash, or a Creed fan who doesn't like Pearl Jam.

Some of us consider overbreeding (and the resultant crime and poverty) by the stupid, the ignorant, the criminal and the greedy to be morally disgusting. Eugenics is not about "killing black kids". It is about humane and rational planning for a better Motherland.

OswaldTheOsprey

using the atheists' choice of definitions what's the difference between agnosticism and weak atheism?


'cause these two seem very similar to me.

If it weren't for them, there'd be no Tool.

We've been over this a million times. I doubt he will ever get it. He's a theist, what do you expect?

Metallica - Loverman

I've come to the conclusion that Metallica is the greatest band in the world, by the way.