I agree with you. After all, why try and learn? Better for you to remain isolated and empty of knowledge. No sense taking any chances of damaging your sensibilities. Besides, learning the truth of a situation is for those who are not intellectually bankrupt, a category you have quite clearly demonstrated is one which you do not wish to place yourself.

Since banning of those trying to bring some truth seems to be the order of the day, I think I'll do what Tenzin Gyatso did and place myself in self-exile...only, unlike him, I wont get a million USD a year from American taxpayers to do so, nor will nazi groups or terrorist organizations provide funding. But hey, it's worth it.

I have even kindly already removed my avatar. You guys agree with yourselves nicely now! Don't ever let any truth or reality interfere with your right to remain unknowledgeable about the real world!

Ta-ta for now!

But...still no answer as to why you would knowingly post a picture of a Japan wave pool and say that it was China in an attempt to insult China.

I did try and post some pictures of beaches in China for you, and not just the ones you chose which were of a particular beach not far from where I live, that were taken on a National Holiday that always results in large crowds, especially since that is one of only a few beaches that are even close to a population of over 10 million. Unfortunately, the pics I did post - only two - have been idiotically marked as "spam" even though I dutifully went through the song and dance of posting first and then editing to add the links.

No problem though, I have found a real political forum elsewhere, and one that seems to have been able to purchase some professional software.

So, no need to reply since it is doubtful if I'll be back. But it is odd to see an Aussie play the CNN game. Oh well.

Well, just one example of many actually, and thus after duly reading the Forum Rules I was truly shocked, nonplussed actually and my nons have not been so plussed for some time!

Perhaps it is like many places and rules are meant to be broken by those who can do so, but not by those for whom power has been granted. Guess it's sort of like every government in the entire world: those in power do what they want, when they want, however they want...and those without the power take it in the...

But since you don't know diddley-squat about Tibet, whatever are you going to do?

I do have a question regarding the forum rules, if I may.

To whom does the following "rule" pertain?

"10. Profanity will not be tolerated.
Only milder words, such as "hell" or "damn" may be used in moderation. Other forms of profanity have substituted words to represent them. Those who attempt to skirt the word censor program, by inserting spaces, etc, will have their post deleted, not just the word. Excessive profanity will result in editing by the moderators, or the entire post being deleted, especially when it is directed at an individual without provocation."

I only ask as there seems to be some egregious uses of profanity on the forum. Not that I really friggin' care, but hey...

Inquiring minds want to know.

Now here's a question for you:

Why would you post a picture of a Japanese Wave pool - didn't the title of the pic of "crowded-pool-japan.jpg" give you a hint - and suggest that it is in China? Do you work for CNN? CNN does that all the time; doctoring pictures, using pictures of one place and suggesting it is another place.

Here's the site, off which, that picture came:

http://www.kilian-nakamura.com/blog-english/index.php/tokyo-summerland-wave-pool-manages-to-fit-in-some-water/

We can probably leave off - or maybe not, perhaps you guys don't know? - anyway, using wiki as a "source" quote doesn't exactly lend any credibility since even the dude that started it admits it is totally flawed and filled with lies and specious propaganda...but let's have a little look at your provided quote to see if there might be some truth, shall we?

First off we have some speculation plagiarized directly from American govt. propaganda flyers.

Then we have some interesting little words like: "allegedly" - which means there is no proof, or of course it would be cited.

Followed quickly by "they are said to..." with of course no links to any of those who are said to have said.

Hey, heard the one about the "inside source" who is "close to" (insert any name here) who alleges that (insert that same, any name here) killed kittens with an ax when she wasn't balling the entire town?

I heard it from a guy who heard it from a guy that knows a guy that alleges it's true, she really was a kitten-killing slut.

Now, got any proof - or just wiki?

Maybe your just peeved because China might be doing the same thing every other govt. in the friggin' world does?

Well, that's progress for ya! You guys should be overjoyed to learn that China is "allegedly" adopting common international practices.

Oh it's a piece of crap propaganda where he tries to portray a nazi as a nice guy. Actually, my government - that would of course be the Canadian govt. since you seem to have forgotten - although wasn't it you that tried to suggest yesterday that nobody was saying anything about where I was from...and yet here you are trying to sleaze into text that "my government" is not the Canadian govt? My, now quickly the mighty fall. Anyway, "my" government doesn't have the balls to do what is necessary, nor to be honest and truthful about much...especially when that truth counters any Hollywood myths or the self-granted "rights" or certain groups. Too bad, so sad.

You think the Chinese people are p'o'd about it, you should read what Jewish people think of this moronic attempt of a movie to portray nazis as cuddly little blond-haired, blue-eyed nice guys. There are many Jewish sites venting their anger at such a piece of crap...but perhaps the real reason is that the movie was just crap.

Try this one:

www.jewishsf.com/content/2-0-/module/displaystory/story_id/6691/edition_id/125/format/html/displaystory.html

How about a quote from the post where I am supposed to have said that China applies American laws in China law?

The direct quote of where I used those words is what is required of course for you to show that lying is not just pathological with you.

China's laws are - oddly enough - of course China's laws. They are promulgated by the China govt and dealt with in China by Chinese people - one of which, you are not.

If you were able to speak, read or even just understand the language of China, and if you were to then watch Chinese television, listen to Chinese talk radio, you would hear things you have denied takes place, in China.

What is allowed or not allowed in China is the business of China. How much or how little of any law fancifully claimed to exist in foreign countries, that China chooses to adopt or not adopt, is again, the business of China.

Because he participated in one of the worst propaganda films ever made.

Hey, like links? Well, there are far too many available to post. As I already informed the kid, I control the world and if you just Google for Tibet and nazi you will find links to half a million of my minions in various countries around the world, all willing to do my bidding and spread lies for me. There are several dedicated to the lying propaganda film Brangelina was in trying to make a nazi look like a good guy.

I will give you one to play with because I was able to make this site in Florida actually create numerous links to the many pictures available - that I of course personally doctored - showing the lying pond scum Tenzin Gyatso with various nazis, terrorists and assorted weirdos.

www.democracyforums.com/showthread.php?t=11274

Have fun, if, that is, you decide you would like true answers to your questions. Ooops! My bad, that should read "lies" to your questions.

So you're what? Like 10 or 11 years old?

There are guys like you on every forum...make a claim, get the claim refuted and debunked with truth, then try and change the initial claim that was made. You said people in China needed permission to have children - they don't. They do not need any permission at all to have a child...but they do need it for more than one - at least "one" specific group does while the other 54 groups do not.

You don't like the truth but hey, you have made that very clear. All you care about is the propaganda you have been spoonfed with.

But hey, that's neither here nor there.

I tried to post the following to you after an earlier inane comment by you, but it was marked as spam. Fortunately, the Forum Admin "Biker Dude" and that odd thread on why posts with links have such a problem getting through the forum software, cleared up the reasons and I posted part of this last night - which you probably never tried to read.

But here's the relevant reply I made to you in relation to your puerile prattle, and I'll do the song and dance of removing the links and then editing to put them in for you. I'd just write them out as "dots" and "slashes" but that would just make it hard for you to figure out.

Let's start off with, no, we don't have "about 2 million immigrated Chinese in Canada." Statistics Canada says that as of the 2001 census, there were 1,094,700 and an estimated for 2005 of 1,194,062. However, even that is very, very misleading because they also count xianggang guizi or people born in Canada of parents who are xianggang guizi as "Chinese" - which they are genetically of course.

There are relatively few people allowed into Canada from Greater China - except criminals with stolen money because they are able to buy off the "right" people.

Thing is, the vast majority of those who were born in Canada - but still termed "visible minorities" - have never been to Greater China and know less about than do you...and that's saying something. I know people who still live in HK who have never even been to Greater China...mainly because they can't speak the Chinese national language but only the Cantonese dialect.

So you lie again. There are not 2 million immigrated Chinese in Canada and the majority of those who are in Canada either stem directly from HK - hey, why do you think it's called "Hong-couver?" - or were born in Canada to xianggang guizi...many of whom are just "astronauts" (if you don't know that term, contact somebody in Vancouver). So the chance of you actually even speaking to someone from Greater China are not very high. Here's the key, speak to them in Putonghua and if they understand you and can reply to you in Putonghua, then there is a "chance" they're from Greater China although it is more likely that they're from Taiwan Province.

You are again incorrect with your next attempt: what people who have (but don't worry, we're already getting bored) been bothering to try and correct the incredible misinformation found on sites like this one are trying to do is get the truth out to counter the idiotic lies being so freely spread.

Guys like you have such an unknowledgeable and quite myopic view of the world it is incredible!

Hey, I've already graciously provided for you information that yes, people in N. America are jailed for criticizing the govt., you just ignore it because it doesn't match with the propaganda you've been deceived with.

You have yet to post one bit of truth that I have seen - although I've only been visiting here for a few days, perhaps there is something on the back pages that contained some truth, I can't attest to that, but from what I've seen over the last few days, truth, to you, is a foreign concept.

But I will, once again, take some pity on you since you so urgently need to learn something.

First off, here's a link to a site that will first explain the population figures - you can find the Stats Can site yourself, can't you? - this one stems from Vancouver:

http://chineseinvancouver.blogspot.com/2006/08/chinese-canadian-population-1996-2005.html

And just for the heck of it, off the same website in Vancouver, here's an article about the pond scum Tenzin Gyatso being sued for "repressing religious freedom" maybe it will help you to learn that Tenzin Gyatso is so low that he needs a stepladder just to be able to reach up and touch the belly of a snake. I actually included this part in my reply to the Forum Admin, but it is doubtful you would have visited it when directed to someone else, so here it is directed at you:

http://chineseinvancouver.blogspot.com/2008/04/dalai-lama-sued-for-repressing.html

But you are right about my power. Just looking through Google you will easily see that I have been able to make people and groups all over the world bow to my demands and lie for me. Government officials all over the world, radio stations in America, newspapers and magazines all over are spreading my lies for me. I am a friggin' GOD! I make reporters lie for me, entire publishing groups do my bidding, I even made the pond scum Tenzin Gyatso publish on his own baby website a picture of him posing with his nazi advisers! Damn but I'm great!

Why, if you just Google for Tibet nazi, you'll get over half a million hits of those from around the world helping me to spread my lies!

Booooha-ha! Chortle! Fear me for I control the entire friggin' world!

Well I'll be, the little song and dance actually worked! Inconvenient of course, but if that's what it takes then that's what it takes.

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I do hope you have the time and inclination to visit some of those links, even if to give yourself some ammunition so you can come back and say everybody is lying.

Ah! I see! You mean that of course the forum software is so useless that it cannot handle posts with links and posters should jump through hoops just to post a reply?

Gee, too bad. I actually thought that, like some had offered in the post you are so in love with in regards to "Spam" that some could do it if sent the post by PM and here I thought you had actually taken it upon yourself, as you do sport the title "Forum Administrator" and all, to just put the post up and let it slide so that the continuity of the thread could continue.

I see I was mistaken about you. My bad.

Well, OK, even though it is late here, let's see if the little song and dance game works.

Here's the post without the links (I'll try the little edit song and dance and insert the links after and see if that works)...and as for your little childish attempt in regards the morons that still after all this time waltz around 911 conspiracy theories, you really are grasping.

Anyway, here we go:

I note you want some links - I say that from another post you made - and I have some if you would like. I actually posted some the other day...did you visit those non-China links?

This is about Tibet and the pond scum terrorist and traitor Tenzin Gyatso, so the links were all in relation to that topic.

First off, here's one reporting the India government lawsuit against Tenzin Gyatso for oppressing religious freedom:
http://chineseinvancouver.blogspot.com/2008/04/dalai-lama-sued-for-repressing.html

Here's one showing the British involvement in Tibet:
http://larouchepac.com/news/2008/04/1-/british-use-tibet-networks-war-hyphen-again.html

Entitled: British Use Tibet Networks for War On China - Again

How about:
www.salon.com/news/1998/07/13news.html

That one is interesting because it is a Christopher Hitchens, a columnist for Vanity Fair.

Maybe you prefer:
http://spitfirelist.com/f547.html

This is the text of a radio program from WFMU 91.1 FM in New York.
Here's a brief of the text, much more of course on the WRMU 91.1 FM website - and it definitely isn't a China radio station operating in New York:

"We're an independent freeform station broadcasting at 91.1 fm in New York, at 90.1 fm in the Hudson Valley"

"This program begins a lengthy examination of the Dalai Lama’s association with a covert-action milieu, much of it fascist and associated with the Underground Reich.

This material is to be viewed in the context of author and political scientist Philip Bobbitt’s concept of "the virtual state" - a state without formal geographical borders.

In addition to the Dalai Lama’s collaboration with Islamist and secular Pan-Turkist separatist elements in Xinjiang province of China, [he] has maintained close connections over a period of decades with SS officers, some of them war criminals. Indeed, the Dalai Lama’s brand of Tantric Buddhism contains philosophical elements that can be readily adapted to a fascist and warlike ideological construction.
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It was this feature of the Tibetan religious philosophy that attracted the Nazi SS to Tibetan society, an attraction that resulted in SS expeditions to that country. Those expeditions led to the genesis of the Dalai Lama’s association with SS men over the years.

A major element of this program and ones to follow centers on the Dalai Lama’s participation in the Unrepresented Nations and Peoples Organization, headed up by Karl von Habsburg, the heir to the throne of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. We are a long way from just "Buddhists" here, a fact that should be borne in mind when considering the Dalai Lama.

Program Highlights Include: [His] selection of SS officers (including war criminals) to state their case to the world; the Dalai Lama’s close relationship with Shoko Asahara - the head of the Aum Shinrikyo cult (influenced by Hitler, the cult perpetrated a sarin gas attack in Tokyo); the Dalai Lama’s association with Jean Marques-Riviere (in his absence convicted and given the death sentence for turning Jews over to the Gestapo in France); the Dalai Lama’s association with Chilean occult fascist Miguel Serrano; the apocalyptic, warlike philosophy contained in the brand of Buddhism practiced by the Dalai Lama; the significance of the Kalachakra Sand Mandala and the creation and destruction of such a mandala at the World Trade Center in the 1990’s; the Dalai Lama’s close association with Erkin Alptekin, a former employee of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty and an apparent asset of elements of U.S. intelligence; the Dalai Lama’s connections to the CIA; the Dalai Lama’s collaboration with Al Qaeda-related Islamist elements in Xinjiang province.

I have more should you need them, many non-China-based or authored because not everyone falls for the con of the terrorist and traitor Tenzin Gyatso and his self-serving propaganda that has been so widely disseminated of late.

All you have to do is ask.

Very, very incorrect.

They were slaves to the wealthy landowners/slaveowners. The monks only used the slaves for things like cooking and cleaning in the monasteries.

The monks that were beholden to the landowners/slaveowners ran away because they didn't like the idea of the people being able to receive and education because cults cannot survive when the people can read or write - just look at the number of cults in America for pete's sake!

The traitor and terrorist Tenzin Gyatso, for the first time in his life, took a train and a place to go to Beijing at the urging of the Panchen Lama, the TRUE spiritual leader of the people of Tibet, and had meetings with the China government. He helped write and signed a 17 point agreement that was intended to reform the system of slavery in Tibet, allowing education, self-ownership of land, an end to the oppressive evil of the landowners/slaveowners, the removal of all imperialists (the British were raping Tiber of resources using the people of Tibet as slave labor and yet paying the landowners - and the monasteries - and other points.

Tenzin Gyatso, at the time just a teen-age punk, then went back to Tibet and promoted that agreement as the future of Tibet and the final freeing of the Tibetan people from the oppression and evil under which they had been living.

He then went to visit his family - and his two brothers - in northern India. While there, his brothers - pis*ed off because they had just lost their cushy life and death control over the people, as well as the American Ambassador to India under Truman - Henderson - worked on him for days to get him to denounce the agreement to reform Tibet. Henderson of course was just wallowing in the disgusting evil that was McCarthyism and didn't care one iota for the people of Tibet. He offered money to Tenzin Gyatso if he would turn his back on the people of Tibet and the pond scum's brothers finally convinced him to not return to Tibet.

America then trained Tibetan monks in self-exile as mercenaries and smuggled weapons and the trained mercenaries back into Tibet. First blood was drawn by those monk-mercenaries in an attempt to stop the reform and freeing of the people of Tibet.

They failed, the people of Tibet won, they are today free...and the pond scum terrorist and traitor Tenzin Gyatso, his brothers and other now less-than-wealthy extended family sucked at the tit of the American taxpayer for decades.

There was no "taking" there was no "forcing." Tenzin Gyatso is NOT in exile - he is in self-exile. There is no "Government of Tibet in Exile" there is only the Government of Tibet IN Tibet.

The people of Tibet have been free for decades and only those who know absolutely nothing about the situation and care nothing for the people of Tibet, say anything different.

"Their" main monk was never "their" main monk. Tenzin Gyatso was the titular and traditional head of one monastery and that was all. The Panchen Lama was and is the spiritual leader of the people of Tibet...and he was the one that first went into self-internal-exile because he could not, as a Buddhist, stand what was being done to the people of Tibet.

Your view of the situation then, and now, is seriously flawed because all you have ever heard is the garbage from those who are the traitors, who were the evil oppressors, who want to, if possible, turn the people of Tibet back into a state worse than medieval Europe.

The truth is the exact opposite to the tripe you have been spoonfed with and all any of us are trying to do is expose you to the REAL truth...but it seems nobody is really interested.

So you like supporting a nazi lover, a terrorist, and a traitor do you? Makes you feel all warm and cuddly supporting someone that fawns over convicted nazi war criminals, modern day terrorists like Shoko Asahara, accepts financial support from other terrorist groups?

We obviously come from different worlds...the one I come from is called "Earth" - where are you from?

And then, just like that...poof! It's gone again.

Hey, at least you tried and I did see it posted as a quote for a brief moment.

Seems there is someone that doesn't want any truth to detract from the misinformation.