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Author Topic: Standards of Decency Eroding?  (Read 732 times)
2112$
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« on: November 27, 2007, 06:52:45 AM »

Do you think that our values as a growing population (in the body of land known as the United States) are eroding as we become desensetized to certain things through the vast branches of the media in this connected information age? And what specifically do you think is causing this (advertisements, televisions shows, movies, etc)? Also, do you think laws should be enacted to control information more or less? Do you think it will come to that in the future?
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« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2007, 07:55:46 AM »

No. We don't need not another law controlling information or regulating TV.
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« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2007, 08:29:09 AM »

I don't think its that bad, but then again my generation has been exposed to this stuff since birth...so we don't even notice.
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« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2007, 09:02:47 AM »

2112$, that sounds like an essay question. Anyway, I guess we can take it piece by piece.

"Do you think that our values as a growing population (in the body of land known as the United States) are eroding as we become desensetized to certain things through the vast branches of the media in this connected information age?"

Like what? Murder? Has "Law & Order" decensitized us toward violence? No. I just think it's taught us the difference between real and fantasy. Beating your wife or killing your child or murdering your boss are all still horible things (well, maybe not the last one Wink ) and violent media programs haven't thickened our skin towards them at all.

"And what specifically do you think is causing this (advertisements, televisions shows, movies, etc)?"

I think it's just the growth of our country. We're maturing as a civilizaton, but we're not losing our values.

Murder is still bad. Disrespecting your elders is still bad. Sleeping around is still bad.

But you would be stupid if you think these things didn't happen back then when our morals were "better". And when they happen now, they are still regarded as imoral.

"Also, do you think laws should be enacted to control information more or less?"

No... not a shot in hell.

I'm with mic on this. Laws should not be made to control the flow of information and entertainment.

"Do you think it will come to that in the future?"

Depends on who this country puts in the big chair.

If neo's right, which I think he is, our generation has grown up on this stuff and we deal with it better. We've grown up with computers and the internet and cell phones and this vast expansion in personal technology.

Once our generation starts hitting the work place en masse, I doubt laws will be written to govern the media.
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« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2007, 09:08:02 AM »

"I think there ought to be some serious discussion by smart people, really smart people, about whether or not proliferation of things like The Smoking Gun and TMZ and YouTube and the whole celebrity culture is healthy. We've switched from a culture that was interested in manufacturing, economics, politics — trying to play a serious part in the world — to a culture that's really entertainment-based. I mean, I know people who can tell you who won the last four seasons on American Idol and they don't know who their f------ Representatives are."

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« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2007, 11:34:26 AM »

Superchicken has the right idea.

I think that there are too many distractions today, and it's only going to get worse. So I'm wondering if or when there will be regulation to protect the young and impressionable from all of the distorted 'noise' we have going on all around us. And I mean desensitized to standards of dress, appropriate actions (ranging from etiquette to control over one's own impulses) and danger zones in general.
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« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2007, 11:42:12 AM »

There does need to be regulation.


















And the parents need to do the regulating on what their kids watch and when. Government involvement in this is a big no-no.
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« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2007, 11:47:12 AM »

I was all set to disagree with Mic, then I scrolled down.  I have zero interest in some government entity telling me what they think is decent or not.  I will and always have policed my kids viewing habits myself.
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« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2007, 11:52:58 AM »

I just won't have kids, that way I won't have to police them. I just have to police myself should someone discover the porno stash on my computer.
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« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2007, 11:55:16 AM »

If you are of age, and the porn actors are too, who cares?
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« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2007, 12:09:38 PM »

I don't get it. I don't know ANYONE who cares about Brittney Spears and her children... or Lindsay Lohan and her drug abuse. An update, sure, but 24-hour news survailence?

Why do they report on it? I really don't know anyone who would watch 3 days of this crap.

But they keep doing it - so there must be a market in it.

I just don't get it. But yeah, mic's right. Leave regulation to the parents and keep government out of it.
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« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2007, 12:43:20 PM »

It doesn't have to be government regulation. It could be a political uprising of support for all things decent.

It seems that despite the best efforts by the best of parents, children are still exposed to some sick stuff constantly. To an adult who has made up their minds about what is right and wrong, and what is fluff and what is important, it's nothing. But to a naive child, how can they possibly navagate through all of the distractions.
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« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2007, 12:47:01 PM »

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It doesn't have to be government regulation. It could be a political uprising of support for all things decent.

There doesn't need to be anything political about it. Period.
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« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2007, 12:51:00 PM »

Why so quick to make up your mind, Mic?
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« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2007, 12:56:48 PM »

It doesn't have to be government regulation. It could be a political uprising of support for all things decent.
And who gets to decide 'decent'?  That is my issue.  I decide for my kids.  Everybody else feel free to do the same for your own. 
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