IAP Political Forum
December 04, 2008, 05:31:49 PM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

Login with username, password and session length
News: Welcome to the new "IAP 2.0" -- please re-register before continuing to post.
 
   Home   Blog Forum   Help Search Chat Login Register  
Digg This!
Pages: [1]   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: 'Palestinian' Revisionism and Associations with Terrorism Revisited  (Read 294 times)
Terry Mathis
High Society
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +57/-92
Posts: 1,239


Goulburn NSW Australia Dual Australian/U.S.


View Profile WWW
« on: November 28, 2007, 07:32:01 PM »

.

The so called 'Palestinian' Arabs have fostered a great revisionism of history.Following is a great article on all this:

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=5ADD2CD9-BDD7-4488-8D2E-77357B1CB326



Terry


.
Logged

Quote
Its not what they say that bothers me, its what they say that just aint so that does !
- Will Rogers
Quote
So that we may end the oppression wrought by our own hands.
- Shulman
Peisithanatos
Sr. Member
****

Karma: +28/-52
Posts: 452



View Profile
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2007, 02:48:05 PM »

what do u suggest we call them, if "Palestinian Arabs" is a bad title? Looks like for these people not only self-determination is too much, but also self-definition.
Logged

a big pile of bs covered with a thick layer of sugar
Hitman
Newbie
*

Karma: +0/-10
Posts: 28



View Profile
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2007, 12:50:20 PM »

Are you serious Terry?, this article is laughable and written by an israeli bigot...of course he didn't point out that most israelis are khazarians : ashkenazis were converted to judaism in 8th century, so in reality they have no roots with hebrews nor semites!

Furthermore Jewish historian benny Morris admited that palestinians have more closer roots in the Land than israelis today!
Logged

My name is nobody!
Terry Mathis
High Society
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +57/-92
Posts: 1,239


Goulburn NSW Australia Dual Australian/U.S.


View Profile WWW
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2007, 02:23:37 PM »

.


Are you serious Terry?, this article is laughable and written by an israeli bigot...of course he didn't point out that most israelis are khazarians : ashkenazis were converted to judaism in 8th century, so in reality they have no roots with hebrews nor semites!

Furthermore Jewish historian benny Morris admited that palestinians have more closer roots in the Land than israelis today!


Hitman, I didn't write the article, quien sabe?  Wink
.. although it is factually correct. You have a problem with Israeli articles (if indeed it was the case)? The point is that the rest of the Middle East doesn't want anything to do with 'Palestinian' Arabs and I do believe that to be truth.


Terry
Logged

Quote
Its not what they say that bothers me, its what they say that just aint so that does !
- Will Rogers
Quote
So that we may end the oppression wrought by our own hands.
- Shulman
pepe
Newbie
*

Karma: +0/-0
Posts: 9


View Profile
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2007, 07:23:48 AM »

.

The so called 'Palestinian' Arabs have fostered a great revisionism of history.Following is a great article on all this:

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=5ADD2CD9-BDD7-4488-8D2E-77357B1CB326



Terry


.
that article was a good laugh...well it would be if the writer wasn't serious.
Logged
Terry Mathis
High Society
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +57/-92
Posts: 1,239


Goulburn NSW Australia Dual Australian/U.S.


View Profile WWW
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2007, 02:41:28 PM »

.

I really don't think it was meant to be 'funny' Pepe. Maybe you can look into it and let us know what you find out? That is what is needed, source related differences.  Wink

BTW, welcome to the Board. There are all walks of life here from all over. Enjoy yourself!


Regards
Terry


.
Logged

Quote
Its not what they say that bothers me, its what they say that just aint so that does !
- Will Rogers
Quote
So that we may end the oppression wrought by our own hands.
- Shulman
pepe
Newbie
*

Karma: +0/-0
Posts: 9


View Profile
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2007, 06:28:41 PM »

ok, 1stly the title "Palestinians: Aggressors, Not Victims"
well its really hard to be an aggressor when you have to tanks, planes, regional support, no nukes...ect. so it kinda boggles the mind how a person who has next to no weapons can be aggressor, oh yeah and some one whose land is occupied. but ill put it down to that famous jewish victim mentality.

Quote
Arab propaganda has been successful in presenting a picture of the Palestinian people as the helpless and innocent victims of Israeli aggression -- potential friends of America who have been alienated by America’s support for Israel and its failure to support a Palestinian national state."

on the arab propaganda point, well this might of been true in 1947 but in 2007 when egypt closes it borders with gaza on israeli wims, jordan has crushed palestinian uprisings, in lebanon well during the civil war the palestinian camps were massacred by Christian Lebanese militias(with israeli army making sure no one got out). so its not like there is any arab solidarity any more(at the gov't level).

on the second point i would like to ask how anyone having a picnic on the beach and his or her whole extended family being wiped out before their eyes, is anything but a victim.

Quote
The fact that Palestinians are now led by two terrorist organizations, Fatah and Hamas, is also blamed on Israel and the United States rather than on the Palestinians who elected terrorists as leaders.
a bit hypocritical since israel was until recently ruled by Sharon who was basically an unindited war criminal from his conduct during the 1980 invasion of Lebanon.

Quote
Goebbels died 60 years ago, but his core propaganda strategy lives on in the Great Arab Lie that there exists a Palestinian people who have suffered great injustices at the hands of Israel, the UK, and the USA. Arab leaders know that if they just keep repeating the same lie often enough, eventually people will believe it -- and the greater the lie, the more readily will people believe it.

well if we are really going to talk about hitler's regime(some thing zionists seem to love to do, for some reason) lets talk about statements they made during the late 30's along the lines that it was acceptable for hitler to wipe out europe jewry IF only a jewish state was established in palestine.

and again this stuff about "arab leaders" there really was one arab leader who supported palestinians in ANY way and that was Suddam.

this particular zionist(that wrote the article) should learn one lesson, that being that to recognize the suffering of others doesn't reduce the suffering you went through.

Quote
Since the Six-Day War, the Arab world’s most powerful leaders -- in Egypt, Libya, Arabia, Syria, and Iraq prior to Saddam’s demise -- have waged a war of words against Israel. Having failed to defeat Israel by means of naked military aggression, these leaders and their advisors decided, sometime between the end of the war and the Khartoum Conference of August-September 1967, to bring about the destruction of Israel by means of a relentless terror war.

he might of had a point if he was just talking about Iraq only, but as it stands most of the countries names would probably prefer to wipe out the Palestinians, well the leaders would anyways. i mean how do you try to destroy israel by helping them enclose the only arab entity in the region that opposes them (hamas dominated gaza)

Quote
.
To justify to the world their ruthless mass murder of Israeli civilians and their undying hatred of the West, these leaders needed to invent a bizarre and apposite reality. Slowly but surely, the reality of the “little David” Israel assailed by the “giant Goliath” of the entire Arab world has been reversed. Now the “Goliath” Israel is depicted as the racist, apartheid, war-mongering, oppressive, illegal occupier Jewish State, regional superpower, hell-bent on the destruction, indeed, the genocide of the poor, defenseless Palestinian people -- the Middle East’s new “David.” This grotesque fiction could be foisted upon the world only if there were indeed a “little David” for Goliath Israel to oppress; only if Israel’s combatant in the conflict were not the entire Arab world, but rather some poor, enfeebled people who could mount no real defense against the Jewish superpower, but nonetheless had a stronger claim to the land of Israel than Israel itself.

ok, on the "mass murder of Israeli civilians" well how can i take this guy seriously?...during the last interfada(uprising) the palestinians deaths doubled israeli ones at its hight and currently its like 50:1 ratio.

now can some one explain how "the entire arab world" is doing anything, there is a reason that hamas had to get money from Iran to pay for the salaries of people that work for them.(btw Iranians arent arab but persians)

now i should add some facts, if you take a cursory glance at the military statistics of the bigger countries in the ME. lets say Iran, egypt and israel. israel has more tanks than both iran and egypt but egypt hsa 50 million people and iran has like 80 while israel has only 6million. and on top of that israel has better tanks, not just 2nd hand Russian ones.

Quote
This occurs even though Israel has sued for peace after winning each war, Israel has agreed a dozen times over to the creation of a Palestinian state on part of its land, even as Hamas’ qassam rockets fall daily upon innocent Israeli civilians, even as Hezbollah declares vociferously its goal of the annihilation of world Jewry, and Iran looks forward perpetrating a nuclear Armageddon in order to create a world without Israel. If only Israel were destroyed, they assert, then the entire Middle East would know peace.
masive LOL at the 1st sentence. fact is Israel dropped its goal of having a state from the latani to the eufarus to sanai(or in simpler words, half of lebanon, half way into iraq and the very east of egypt) it only dropped this after the war in the 80 where egypt kinda suprised them badly.

now on the "israel has agreed a dozen times over to the creation of a Palestinian state on part of its land"
well how nice, you drive people out of thier homes for 60 years and you "offer" to let them have a ghetto they can call a state, which would not be able to defend its airspace, its land or even be a single entity.

about the iran wanting some form of neclear war, let me point out that the only time in the last 150 years iran was at war was when Iraq invaded iran. and anyways its not like israel doesnt have nukes or anything.

Quote
This mendacious narrative is stalwartly bolstered by a growing host of pseudo-academics in Western universities, and by a cadre of Western journalists, who churn out books and articles that effectively rewrite history and archaeology in order to erase Israel’s connection to the Holy Land and thus deny both the Christian and Jewish historic and religious roots in the Land of Israel.

so now we are blaming palestinians for what westerners do?

Quote
This propaganda campaign to legitimize the 60-year-old Arab war against Israel and to create the fiction of the “Palestinian people” as the poor oppressed victims of imperialist colonialist Israel, illegally occupying “Historic Palestine,” is a veritable war against History. It deals in lies, just the kind of lies Goebbels had in mind. And the biggest lie of all is the existence of a “Palestinian People.

im going to end it here. seriously this guy is no better than holocaust deniers.
Logged
Terry Mathis
High Society
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +57/-92
Posts: 1,239


Goulburn NSW Australia Dual Australian/U.S.


View Profile WWW
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2007, 02:37:21 AM »

.


All I see are opinions Pepe. Please link to some sources that cover the issues the Frontpage article presents.  Smiley

Regards
Terry

.
Logged

Quote
Its not what they say that bothers me, its what they say that just aint so that does !
- Will Rogers
Quote
So that we may end the oppression wrought by our own hands.
- Shulman
pepe
Newbie
*

Karma: +0/-0
Posts: 9


View Profile
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2007, 06:55:47 AM »

.


All I see are opinions Pepe. Please link to some sources that cover the issues the Frontpage article presents.  Smiley

Regards
Terry

.

thats kind of the point, all he (im assuming its a he) did was give a very long rant filled with 1950's israeli propaganda that can be discredited by a year 11 modern history textbook.

but if i come across an article that would fit in here ill post it(insert wink emotiocon)
Logged
Terry Mathis
High Society
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +57/-92
Posts: 1,239


Goulburn NSW Australia Dual Australian/U.S.


View Profile WWW
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2007, 08:45:28 AM »

.

No wucking furries Pepe!  Grin

-Terry

.
Logged

Quote
Its not what they say that bothers me, its what they say that just aint so that does !
- Will Rogers
Quote
So that we may end the oppression wrought by our own hands.
- Shulman
Pages: [1]   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.4 | SMF © 2006-2007, Simple Machines LLC
Joomla Bridge by JoomlaHacks.com
Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
Page created in 0.097 seconds with 26 queries.