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Author Topic: A fun one: Why do fat people get paid less?  (Read 191 times)
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« on: November 29, 2007, 08:54:03 AM »

Just read this interesting study that just appeared out of nowhere.  It is a revision of older studies that conclude that there is a definite statistical significance with weight and wage earned.

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Basically: The more you are overweight, the less you earn.

Why is this?  Could it be that overweight people have less self esteem which could contribute to them having lower productivity?  Or do managers discriminate based on hideousness?  Are overweight people more sedentary, which is another word for lazy, and just prefer to stay where they are and do not focus on earning higher wages? 

You may think this is just pure nonsense and is a waste of time to debate about, but I always find that strong statistical significances should be studied to see if there actually is a reason, whether its discrimination or personal choice.

Like I always say, "Sometimes statistical significances are just measured coincidences." 

What can this mean politically? Affirmative Action for the fat? Focus on our obesity problem in order to promote productivity?  Hmmm...Me thinks this would be good questions for a study to dive into in the future...
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« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2007, 10:55:35 AM »

.... AA for the fat? You're not serious are you?

If the government does anything it will be stepping in and restricting the use of salt, transfat, etc. Thereby reducing the overwieght issues.
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« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2007, 12:14:42 PM »

Yeah... what a way to teach responcibility. Make buisnesses change their habits so Americans don't have to...

I'd be enraged if I weren't so lazy. Maybe the government can just make less work for everyone...
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« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2007, 01:59:10 PM »

Just read this interesting study that just appeared out of nowhere.  It is a revision of older studies that conclude that there is a definite statistical significance with weight and wage earned.

The study.

Basically: The more you are overweight, the less you earn.

Why is this?  Could it be that overweight people have less self esteem which could contribute to them having lower productivity?  Or do managers discriminate based on hideousness?  Are overweight people more sedentary, which is another word for lazy, and just prefer to stay where they are and do not focus on earning higher wages? 

You may think this is just pure nonsense and is a waste of time to debate about, but I always find that strong statistical significances should be studied to see if there actually is a reason, whether its discrimination or personal choice.

Like I always say, "Sometimes statistical significances are just measured coincidences." 

What can this mean politically? Affirmative Action for the fat? Focus on our obesity problem in order to promote productivity?  Hmmm...Me thinks this would be good questions for a study to dive into in the future...


This is BS.....tell it to Michael Moore, Rosie O'Donald, Rush, Rob Reiner, Big Nose Barbara Streisand, Larry the Cable Guy, Danny Devito
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« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2007, 02:03:12 PM »

I believe those are known as exceptions that prove the rule.  Out of curiousity though, compared to most actors that are as well known as Danny Devito, how does his pay compare?  Who was paid more for that movie "Deck the Halls" Danny or Farris Bueller?  (more curious than anything).

There is a reason statistics is used here, because you will always have those who don't quite fit in and you can get a better idea of the situation when you remove outliers from both sets of statistics.  Then again, there are lies, damn lies, and statistics, so there you go.

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« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2007, 04:25:23 PM »

Just read this interesting study that just appeared out of nowhere.  It is a revision of older studies that conclude that there is a definite statistical significance with weight and wage earned.

The study.

Basically: The more you are overweight, the less you earn.

Why is this?  Could it be that overweight people have less self esteem which could contribute to them having lower productivity?  Or do managers discriminate based on hideousness?  Are overweight people more sedentary, which is another word for lazy, and just prefer to stay where they are and do not focus on earning higher wages? 

You may think this is just pure nonsense and is a waste of time to debate about, but I always find that strong statistical significances should be studied to see if there actually is a reason, whether its discrimination or personal choice.

Like I always say, "Sometimes statistical significances are just measured coincidences." 

What can this mean politically? Affirmative Action for the fat? Focus on our obesity problem in order to promote productivity?  Hmmm...Me thinks this would be good questions for a study to dive into in the future...


This is a corollary to the idea of attractive people being more successful.

I think it has elements of what you speak of. If low confidence and obesity are connected, you have a partial explanation right there. People with more confidence are more likely to walk into the bosses office and tell him that they want a raise.


There's also the possibility that causality works the other way. Eating healthy costs more than eating crap, maybe some of the people are fat partially because they are poor.


This reminds me of that Simpsons episode though, the one where Homer gains weight so he can qualify to work from home.





But hey, if fat people are gonna get preference in the workplace, I'm gonna start eating more cheeseburgers. Extra bacon, hold the lettuce. Think of that 80 cents for an extra slice of cheese as an investment.
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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2007, 05:23:11 AM »

mmmmmmmmm, cheeseburger *drool*  (best Simpson's impression I can do online)
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« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2007, 09:17:29 AM »

Affirmative Action for the fat?

I really hope you're joking.
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« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2007, 09:30:51 AM »

Affirmative Action for the fat?

I really hope you're joking.

A little bit.  Some might take it serious.  If you think about how ridiculous AA is (based on my current conclusions) this isn't that far fetched.

We can't call people fat anymore these days.  We have to say you "obese."  Or overweight.  Or worse...

Husky or big boned.
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« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2007, 09:34:21 AM »

There's also the possibility that causality works the other way. Eating healthy costs more than eating crap, maybe some of the people are fat partially because they are poor.

This was an insight I failed to miss, but was trying to get at it. 

Supposedly, and this was based on another's comment on a blog, the measurements taken were supposed to fit the model that  wage obesity was a cause of wage earned.  But I could be wrong. 
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« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2007, 11:22:53 AM »

Affirmative Action for the fat?

I really hope you're joking.

Ever see a Weight Watchers meeting? Curves?

They're out there...
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