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« on: December 03, 2007, 01:47:14 AM »

Cardinal George of Chicago clearly calls Talmudics jews to stop their blasphems against Jesus in order to begin a serious discussion...

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/ukcorrespondents/holysmoke/october2007/jews.htm

Cardinal George is one of the most senior cardinals in US!

I sometimes wonder, is it so difficult to change this old belief from their holy texts? Roll Eyes

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« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2007, 03:02:37 AM »

Some people obviously don't have enough things to argue about.
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« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2007, 04:17:54 AM »

No!, raising his children with hate can matters!
the consequences of Talmud teachings are present uptodate, therefore "The last temptation of the christ" and "Da Vinci Code" are typical jewish productions....(MCA Universal and Columbia)

However  "Passion of The Christ" was strangely boycotted by almost all prouction societies !!!

They simply must stop this behavior's filth.
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« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2007, 04:35:23 AM »

....the consequences of Talmud teachings......

Let's see.......you bet a slander against Jesus in the Talmud......I'll raise a beheading of infidels in the Koran.

Shall we call?
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« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2007, 05:43:33 AM »

....the consequences of Talmud teachings......

Let's see.......you bet a slander against Jesus in the Talmud......I'll raise a beheading of infidels in the Koran.

Shall we call?
Beheading of infidels !!!!!; seems that you are suckled with media propaganda ; I’m muslim and I never heard about that.

In other part, the two movies above are banned in Islamic countries official distribution- attacking jesus or calling Mary a prostitute as Talmud did is an anti-islamic behaviour too
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« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2007, 05:52:14 AM »

Beheading of infidels !!!!!; seems that you are suckled with media propaganda ; I’m muslim and I never heard about that.

In other part, the two movies above are banned in Islamic countries official distribution- attacking jesus or calling Mary a prostitute as Talmud did is an anti-islamic behaviour too

Self-delusion is an interesting thing. 
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« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2007, 06:06:11 AM »

Beheading of infidels !!!!!; seems that you are suckled with media propaganda ; I’m muslim and I never heard about that.

I suggest you read your Holy book again.

Sura 47-4: “When you meet the unbelievers, strike off their heads; then when you have made wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives”
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« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2007, 07:43:08 AM »

Beheading of infidels !!!!!; seems that you are suckled with media propaganda ; I’m muslim and I never heard about that.

I suggest you read your Holy book again.

Sura 47-4: “When you meet the unbelievers, strike off their heads; then when you have made wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives”
thanks for posting that;
first, this verse is directed to fidels who were attacked and violated by paganists; captives children and women should be spared!

second, the rule of treating the others is clearly explained here
"God does not forbid you respecting those who have not made war against you on account of (your) religion, and have not driven you forth from your homes, that you show them kindness and deal with them justly; surely God loves the doers of justice."

Joyce asked your  same qst here and he was answered clearly by a scholar:

Islamic Treatment of Non-Combatants
http://www.readingislam.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1123996016532&pagename=IslamOnline-English-AAbout_Islam/AskAboutIslamE/AskAboutIslamE
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« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2007, 08:46:03 AM »

Hitman your obvious anti-semitism is both irrational and appalling.


No doubt 9/11 and the JFK assassination were "typical jewish productions"?

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« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2007, 11:11:28 AM »

Beheading of infidels !!!!!; seems that you are suckled with media propaganda ; I’m muslim and I never heard about that.

I suggest you read your Holy book again.

Sura 47-4: “When you meet the unbelievers, strike off their heads; then when you have made wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives”
thanks for posting that;
first, this verse is directed to fidels who were attacked and violated by paganists; captives children and women should be spared!

second, the rule of treating the others is clearly explained here
"God does not forbid you respecting those who have not made war against you on account of (your) religion, and have not driven you forth from your homes, that you show them kindness and deal with them justly; surely God loves the doers of justice."

Joyce asked your  same qst here and he was answered clearly by a scholar:

Islamic Treatment of Non-Combatants
http://www.readingislam.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1123996016532&pagename=IslamOnline-English-AAbout_Islam/AskAboutIslamE/AskAboutIslamE


Hitman (or, is that "assassin"?) welcome to IAP. You are a fresh voice and one we desperately need.  There are many Xians on this forum who claim Islam is diabolical and their religion is the one true religion.

It is wonderful to have balance to the horrible slander against your religion of peace.  Perhaps we will all see the beauty of religion after you have all discussed this in depth.

I, for one, can't tell you how excited I am at the prospect of the discussions that could result. I am almost literally physically excited by the possibility of those discussions revealing the truth and value of religion!

Please tell us more true stories of your belief, instead of letting the Xian Fundimentalists define your precious Koran.
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« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2007, 12:42:24 PM »

I, for one, can't tell you how excited I am at the prospect of the discussions that could result. I am almost literally physically excited by the possibility of those discussions revealing the truth and value of religion!

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« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2007, 01:13:00 PM »

Beheading of infidels !!!!!; seems that you are suckled with media propaganda ; I’m muslim and I never heard about that.



I suggest you read your Holy book again.

Sura 47-4: “When you meet the unbelievers, strike off their heads; then when you have made wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives”
thanks for posting that;
first, this verse is directed to fidels who were attacked and violated by paganists; captives children and women should be spared!

second, the rule of treating the others is clearly explained here
"God does not forbid you respecting those who have not made war against you on account of (your) religion, and have not driven you forth from your homes, that you show them kindness and deal with them justly; surely God loves the doers of justice."

Joyce asked your  same qst here and he was answered clearly by a scholar:

Islamic Treatment of Non-Combatants
http://www.readingislam.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1123996016532&pagename=IslamOnline-English-AAbout_Islam/AskAboutIslamE/AskAboutIslamE


Hitman (or, is that "assassin"?) welcome to IAP. You are a fresh voice and one we desperately need.  There are many Xians on this forum who claim Islam is diabolical and their religion is the one true religion.

It is wonderful to have balance to the horrible slander against your religion of peace.  Perhaps we will all see the beauty of religion after you have all discussed this in depth.

I, for one, can't tell you how excited I am at the prospect of the discussions that could result. I am almost literally physically excited by the possibility of those discussions revealing the truth and value of religion!

Please tell us more true stories of your belief, instead of letting the Xian Fundimentalists define your precious Koran.
Hi man, maybe we are not sharing the same belief as you seem an "atheist holy warrior"!  Cheesy

I respect your choice, but we surely  should  have common ideas toward christianity (contradictions, trinity theory...etc)
Hope that we can tip up this right-wing board

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Doesn't lying for Islam make you a heretic and poor excuse maker for the religion of peace?
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Show us this. With regards to this verse, there is nothing like what you have said.

Indeed This surat is named the "surat of fight" too, it was inspired during Muslims fight against heathens---the fidels was firstly forbidden to defend themselves or using force for about a decade and until Mohamed clan joined Mediana, then those verses was dictated as war rule to kill those paganists who massacred fidels in Mecca!

The exact word "dharb Riqab" in the verse didn't mean beheading  but it's a metonymy of drubbing in order to humble.- otherwise you would conclude that every muslim shall   kill evey unbeliever in earth wich is  a stupid aseessment!

again the rule of dealing with pacifist unbelievers is in the verse; Mumtahina 60-8
"God does not forbid you respecting those who have not made war against you on account of (your) religion, and have not driven you forth from your homes, that you show them kindness and deal with them justly; surely God loves the doers of justice."

So for instance it's not forbidden to marry a christian or jewish girl for a muslim.

Understand?

Your talking sounds like a tone of a little bit bigoted like pat Robertson!

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Hitman your obvious anti-semitism is both irrational and appalling.

The antisemites are those who didn't and can't change their teaching against Jesus (the son and father of semites)

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« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2007, 01:13:56 PM »

Pat,  Grin Did you like that extra touch? I must say I am as giddy as a schoolgirl! lol laugh

Hitman, I am serious that we need your voice here

Yes, we disagree about a few things (the existence of a god, for example), but I am sure we are in agreement that, at least, the Xian religion has elements that when analyzed don't seem to measure up to the claim of divinely inspired.

Worse, often Xianity is defended wholly on this board but Islam is ripped to shreds by taking verses out of context and pointing to the extremist representatives.

It will be interesting to see Apologetics applied equally to each religion.  Very, very, very, incredibly, succulantly, deliciously, decadantly, mouth-wateringly, mind-numbingly.... interesting.
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« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2007, 02:12:25 PM »

It is wonderful to have balance to the horrible slander against your religion of peace.

Horrible slander? So all those honour killings, stonings of women, lashings of rape victims are all just made up?

I understand we want to attract fresh people to this board but let's not pretend Islam is something it's not.
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