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« Reply #30 on: October 24, 2007, 10:07:55 PM » |
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The most amazing climbing story I've read is Touching the Void. There's a film of the same name. True story. Incredible.
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« Reply #31 on: November 06, 2007, 05:51:04 AM » |
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now here is something you and I can agree wholeheartedly on.
I have not read the book yet. I saw the movie, including the interviews with the actual guys and their trip back to that mountain so many years later.
Just an unbelievable story of the will to survive. I could not imagine being in that situation. Truly an unforgettable story.
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« Reply #32 on: November 06, 2007, 09:40:27 PM » |
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gomper, have you read Krackauer's Into Thin Air? About the Everest disaster in 1996. Best book I've read for describing step by step what it's like to climb Everest.
I trekked to the Mt. Everest base camp way back in 1984, but I'll never go higher than that.
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« Reply #33 on: November 07, 2007, 03:11:50 AM » |
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Into Thin Air is one of the first climbing books I ever read. One of the parts of it that I did enjoy was how well Krakaur descrbed the whole process of setting up a climb, getting permits, setting up base camp, climbing up, then down, them higher, then down to acclimatize to the extreme altitude. All of that was fascinating to me. He also did very well at disecting the events that lead to the tragedies of that season.
I later read Anatoli Boukreev's book about the 1996 Everest season, it was good to get another perspective, but was not as well written as Into Thin Air.
That is way cool that you were as far as base camp on Everest, that is a lot closer than most of us will ever get, I would love to be able to say I had done that. I am affraid I will just have to stick with my hiking though, and leave the real climbing to others. Who will hopefully write books about it so I can join them as a spectator after the fact.
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« Reply #34 on: November 07, 2007, 10:54:11 AM » |
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Into Thin Air is one of the first climbing books I ever read. One of the parts of it that I did enjoy was how well Krakaur descrbed the whole process of setting up a climb, getting permits, setting up base camp, climbing up, then down, them higher, then down to acclimatize to the extreme altitude. All of that was fascinating to me. He also did very well at disecting the events that lead to the tragedies of that season.
I later read Anatoli Boukreev's book about the 1996 Everest season, it was good to get another perspective, but was not as well written as Into Thin Air. I read Krakauer shortly after Norgay's book describing events from the same season. Krakauer has a more journalistic approach, Norgay is more poetic. I can't find Bukrejev's book. Did anyone watch the imax movie filmed in 1996? I check imax in Europe (damn, the one in Vienna was closed) from time to time, but I don't expect it will be shown sometimes in the near future.
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« Reply #35 on: November 07, 2007, 01:35:38 PM » |
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I trekked to the Mt. Everest base camp way back in 1984, but I'll never go higher than that.
That's awesome man. Did you climb something else in the area?
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« Reply #36 on: November 07, 2007, 07:51:24 PM » |
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No. And it wasn't a climb, just a hike (what they call "trekking"). Porters carried our heavy gear and cooked for us. We slept in tents most nights. It was a lot of hard walking but really pretty cushy in its own way. The Sherpas would wake us up with bowls of hot water to wash our faces in. We stayed a few nights at Lubuche and hiked to the top of Kala Patar at 18,500 feet. It was quite amazing to look up at the Khumbu Ice Fall, where the real climbing begins for those going up Everest. I spent five weeks in all in Nepal. Quite an adventure. I had taken leave from the USS Dixon to do it. The XO didn't believe I was really taking vacation time to do that until I brought my pictures back. I don't know why, but for some people a trip like that is entirely off their radar screen. And now I'm happy to spend a week just lying on the beach in Hawaii. The other really big trip I took was in 1990-1991. Three months overland from Cairo to Kathmandu, which was my second visit to Nepal. I did it through this British outfit: http://www.explore.co.uk/ It was surprisingly inexpensive, but there are few frills. We traveled in a custom-built truck and slept in tents at night. But what an adventure--floating down the Nile at sunset in Faluccas, Crusaders' Castles in Syria, Alleppo, Turkey, (me and the other American had to overfly Iran and meet up with the group in Quetta, Pakistan), the Khyber Pass, India, and ending up in Nepal. The group itself was interesting because we had two Americans, two Canadians, four Brits, four Austrialians, a Swede, and a woman from Iceland. A trip of a lifetime. Look up that link and drool at all the possibilities.
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« Reply #37 on: November 08, 2007, 08:20:01 AM » |
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Me and some friends have been exploring the possibility of flying our bikes over to Europe and riding from Europe all the way across Russia. Would be a fantatstic adventure.
We already did south from Kansas City clear down to Panama, West side of the Canal. Then a ship back to New Orleans
We did Anchorage Alaska BACK TO Kansas City.
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« Reply #38 on: November 08, 2007, 08:28:03 AM » |
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Wow, they are pretty cheap jpn. Thanks for the link.
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« Reply #39 on: November 08, 2007, 05:57:42 PM » |
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We already did south from Kansas City clear down to Panama, West side of the Canal. Then a ship back to New Orleans We did Anchorage Alaska BACK TO Kansas City. No kidding. I bike, but never more than an hour each way, max(!) The trip to Panama must have been epic.
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« Reply #40 on: November 08, 2007, 06:09:04 PM » |
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Wow, they are pretty cheap jpn. Thanks for the link.
Cheap, and again, few frills. For that reason most of their clients are pretty young. The thing is, since it is so cheap, you're living a lot closer to the ground than if you go with an expensive tour and stay in lavish hotels. You miss a lot of the experience that way. For instance, at noon we'd stop somewhere and the guide would give four of us some money. Then we'd head out into the town we had stopped at and find bread and vegetables and meat for that night's dinner. We rotated cooking responsibilities. The meals were therefore rarely very great, but we got a real feel for the availablility of various foodstuffs as we traveled along. For lunch we'd often stop on the side of an apparently person-less stretch of road and set up our camp chairs and tables. Within minutes there would be throngs of local folks standing there, watching us. We were like a visiting show for them, I guess. Same thing in the afternoon when we'd set up volleyball nets and have some great games. As a result we had numerous opportunities for interaction. On the other hand, for the real "authentic" experience I suppose the best way of all is not going with a guided group at all. But hey, I wanted vacation too. Traveling in the third world by yourself is a lot of work, especially if you don't know the language. I remember the sign in the Cairo central train station showing where all the trains on the various tracks were heading. Couldn't make heads or tails out of the Arabic. And since Arabic numbers are different too, it was even more mysterious. So this low-rent adventure travel way to go is a good compromise between having someone taking care of most of the headaches, while at the same time not being entirely cut off from the common folks.
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« Reply #41 on: November 09, 2007, 05:16:12 AM » |
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We already did south from Kansas City clear down to Panama, West side of the Canal. Then a ship back to New Orleans We did Anchorage Alaska BACK TO Kansas City. No kidding. I bike, but never more than an hour each way, max(!) The trip to Panama must have been epic. Sorry I should have been clearer,,,,,Motorcycle. I have a 1999 Idian Chief touring bike and they both have harleys
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