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« on: December 10, 2007, 11:47:34 AM » |
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A couple of quotes by an ex-military guy, that pretty much ring true today (very much today) in terms of the Middle-east:
1. Send 'em off, stuffed with lies and rubbish, to get killed and maimed for nothing except a politician's vanity or a manufacturer's profit.
2. Nobody.... has the right to talk of blame, or blunders. Just us, the living and the dead. It was our [deal].
In the second, he is talking of the military's own mistakes, not those who sent them there.
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« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2007, 03:30:39 PM » |
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Send 'em off, stuffed with lies and rubbish, to get killed and maimed for nothing except a politician's vanity or a manufacturer's profit.
i wish this understanding spread among the US recruits and youth at large. |
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« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2007, 10:12:15 AM » |
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One may asked too why Army bases still hide the real rate of soldiers suicides in Iraq?
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« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2007, 11:07:58 AM » |
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One may asked too why Army bases still hide the real rate of soldiers suicides in Iraq?
Well, the suicides are irrelevant to the military themselves, in terms of blame; any blame on the suicide rate falls directly on the society that brought them there. |
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« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2007, 11:18:38 AM » |
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One may asked too why Army bases still hide the real rate of soldiers suicides in Iraq?
Well, the suicides are irrelevant to the military themselves, in terms of blame; any blame on the suicide rate falls directly on the society that brought them there. agree |
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« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2007, 07:30:15 PM » |
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That still doesn't explain why the real numbers are still kept hidden or the extent not truly exposed to the media and society.
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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2007, 05:31:48 AM » |
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That still doesn't explain why the real numbers are still kept hidden or the extent not truly exposed to the media and society.
Maybe in your infinite wisdom you would care to enlighten us all as to what those suicide rates might really be? |
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« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2007, 01:32:59 PM » |
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To volonteer into a combat unit is already sort of a suicide. So I would say the suicidal tendency rate is 100%.
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« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2008, 09:55:15 PM » |
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Biker Dude, Considering that the real numbers are with held I am unable to enlighten you on the exact figures.  |
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« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2008, 01:42:15 AM » |
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. Mingbearer, whatever prompted you to post this crap. I doubt very much that the suicide rate among soldiers is any more than any other high stress job. Indeed, because of the troops training and support from families and councilors, I would think that the suicide rate is lower. You have no sources, just a pathetic attempt at trying to validate your bitterness about something.  No one else has said it, so I will. This thread is crap. May it die ignominiously! -Terry . |
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« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2008, 06:59:45 AM » |
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Maybe in your infinite wisdom you would care to enlighten us all as to what those suicide rates might really be? Bikerdude, it was recently reported that the veteran suicide rate is as high as 120/week. Per week! That is double the national average, and a tragedy IMO. Mingbearer, whatever prompted you to post this crap. I doubt very much that the suicide rate among soldiers is any more than any other high stress job. Indeed, because of the troops training and support from families and councilors, I would think that the suicide rate is lower.
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No one else has said it, so I will. This thread is crap. May it die ignominiously! One would think that such an enlightened poster would know how to google "veteran suicide rates" to see who is really posting garbage. You have no sources, just a pathetic attempt at trying to validate your bitterness about something. Now that is truly a crap post, a pathetic attempt to boost your own ego by slandering another poster. Rather transparent, too. |
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« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2008, 12:20:00 AM » |
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. Ego Godot? I deal in reality, not the dream world of the far left. Nor do I take 'snippets' of a post that suit me and ignore the whole or the rest. All you do is play the part deceitfully of the far left. I could care less what you think of my 'ego'. You simply don't rate any notice. I have told you that before, and that is the way it will be. So knock yourself out. I won't.  . |
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« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2008, 05:47:53 AM » |
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. Ego Godot? I deal in reality, not the dream world of the far left. Nor do I take 'snippets' of a post that suit me and ignore the whole or the rest. All you do is play the part deceitfully of the far left. I could care less what you think of my 'ego'. You simply don't rate any notice. I have told you that before, and that is the way it will be. So knock yourself out. I won't. . Good! Then we won't have to see your lazy poor excuses for intellect. Tchau! Good riddance. |
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