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« on: September 16, 2007, 06:02:40 PM » |
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Senator John McCain has long identified himself as an Episcopalian, but is now claimg to be Baptist (in South Carolina). This comes from the Associated Press. OswaldTheOsprey http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070916/D8RMP5KG0.html |
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« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2007, 06:38:14 PM » |
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The Government of the Reich, which regards Christianity as the unshakable foundation of the morals and moral code of the nation, attaches the greatest value to friendly relations with the Holy See, and is endeavouring to develop them. Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of human failure. This is a very good illustration of why it's not smart to vote based on what politicians say their faith is. I'm not equating McCain with Hitler here, it was just the most striking example that came to mind of a politician being on record with conflicting religious views. That, and I now hold the title as the first ever poster to invoke Goodwin's Law here on IAP 2.0. I think McCain is pandering to multiple denominations here. His changing story about his denomination is a good sign that his actual faith takes a back-seat to what he thinks people listening at the time want to hear. |
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« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2007, 08:01:04 PM » |
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I wish we could have an atheist president in this country.
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« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2007, 10:25:11 PM » |
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What's the difference?
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\"Do you really believe if we replace a bunch of corporate Republicans with a bunch of corporate Democrats, that anything meaningful is going to change? This has to stop. It\'s that simple.\"
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« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2007, 08:16:02 AM » |
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The Government of the Reich, which regards Christianity as the unshakable foundation of the morals and moral code of the nation, attaches the greatest value to friendly relations with the Holy See, and is endeavouring to develop them. Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of human failure. This is a very good illustration of why it's not smart to vote based on what politicians say their faith is. I'm not equating McCain with Hitler here, it was just the most striking example that came to mind of a politician being on record with conflicting religious views. That, and I now hold the title as the first ever poster to invoke Goodwin's Law here on IAP 2.0. I think McCain is pandering to multiple denominations here. His changing story about his denomination is a good sign that his actual faith takes a back-seat to what he thinks people listening at the time want to hear. Pandering to the Nth degree. OswaldTheOsprey |
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« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2007, 08:32:12 AM » |
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The Government of the Reich, which regards Christianity as the unshakable foundation of the morals and moral code of the nation, attaches the greatest value to friendly relations with the Holy See, and is endeavouring to develop them. Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of human failure. This is a very good illustration of why it's not smart to vote based on what politicians say their faith is. I'm not equating McCain with Hitler here, it was just the most striking example that came to mind of a politician being on record with conflicting religious views. That, and I now hold the title as the first ever poster to invoke Goodwin's Law here on IAP 2.0. I think McCain is pandering to multiple denominations here. His changing story about his denomination is a good sign that his actual faith takes a back-seat to what he thinks people listening at the time want to hear. Pandering to the Nth degree. OswaldTheOsprey It's why I'm inclined to stop listening when politicians start talking about their relationships with Jesus. Of course someone running for office is going to identify themselves as a Christian, this country is predominantly Christian. IMO, politicians talking about their religion is as substance-free as them going around kissing babies on the campaign trail. Honestly, I couldn't care less if some of the candidates were athiest, confucian, baptist or zoroastrian. What I'm concerned about is their take on policy, which I believe should not be influenced by religion. |
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« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2007, 10:11:36 AM » |
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The Government of the Reich, which regards Christianity as the unshakable foundation of the morals and moral code of the nation, attaches the greatest value to friendly relations with the Holy See, and is endeavouring to develop them. Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of human failure. This is a very good illustration of why it's not smart to vote based on what politicians say their faith is. I'm not equating McCain with Hitler here, it was just the most striking example that came to mind of a politician being on record with conflicting religious views. That, and I now hold the title as the first ever poster to invoke Goodwin's Law here on IAP 2.0. I think McCain is pandering to multiple denominations here. His changing story about his denomination is a good sign that his actual faith takes a back-seat to what he thinks people listening at the time want to hear. Pandering to the Nth degree. OswaldTheOsprey It's why I'm inclined to stop listening when politicians start talking about their relationships with Jesus. Of course someone running for office is going to identify themselves as a Christian, this country is predominantly Christian. IMO, politicians talking about their religion is as substance-free as them going around kissing babies on the campaign trail. Honestly, I couldn't care less if some of the candidates were athiest, confucian, baptist or zoroastrian. What I'm concerned about is their take on policy, which I believe should not be influenced by religion. Your take should be everyone's take. Sadly it is not. OswaldTheOsprey |
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« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2007, 11:40:47 AM » |
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I wish we could have an atheist president in this country. I second that... but it will NEVER happen. Too many people in this country equate atheism with imorality. It's a damn shame, too. |
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« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2007, 10:17:13 PM » |
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I don't care what our President's religion is as long as he/she doesn't either.
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« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2007, 04:17:38 AM » |
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I don't care what our President's religion is as long as he/she doesn't either.
Unfortunately, they all wallow in religion to cadge votes.  OswaldTheOsprey |
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« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2007, 06:55:52 AM » |
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I think the Dems who jumped on the bandwagon first is worse...
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« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2007, 12:05:33 PM » |
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I don't care what our President's religion is as long as he/she doesn't either. Sadly, you're not like other American voters who *DO* care. There is a religous liymus test in this country that simply can't be passed by iregular religions (Muslims, Atheists, Pagans) because there is some misconception that they are "imoral" and do not understand "family values"... ... And it's bull shit. |
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« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2007, 12:13:00 PM » |
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I don't care what our President's religion is as long as he/she doesn't either. Sadly, you're not like other American voters who *DO* care. There is a religous liymus test in this country that simply can't be passed by iregular religions (Muslims, Atheists, Pagans) because there is some misconception that they are "imoral" and do not understand "family values"... ... And it's bull shit. Romney may still have problems because of his Mormonism. You are right in your bovinal description of the problem! OswaldTheOsprey |
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« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2007, 02:31:45 PM » |
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I don't care what our President's religion is as long as he/she doesn't either. Sadly, you're not like other American voters who *DO* care. There is a religous liymus test in this country that simply can't be passed by iregular religions (Muslims, Atheists, Pagans) because there is some misconception that they are "imoral" and do not understand "family values"... ... And it's bull shit. Romney may still have problems because of his Mormonism. You are right in your bovinal description of the problem! OswaldTheOsprey I just applauded you, that's points for style there. |
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« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2007, 03:09:55 PM » |
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I don't care what our President's religion is as long as he/she doesn't either. Sadly, you're not like other American voters who *DO* care. There is a religous liymus test in this country that simply can't be passed by iregular religions (Muslims, Atheists, Pagans) because there is some misconception that they are "imoral" and do not understand "family values"... ... And it's bull shit. Romney may still have problems because of his Mormonism. You are right in your bovinal description of the problem! OswaldTheOsprey I just applauded you, that's points for style there. Thank you!  OswaldTheOsprey |
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