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« on: December 16, 2007, 05:20:14 PM »

No comment required. Just standard AIPAC Joe.

Lieberman to Endorse McCain
December 16, 2007 6:35 PM EST

MANCHESTER, N.H. - Sen. John McCain, trying to build momentum toward a reprise of his 2000 New Hampshire primary victory, is piling up high-profile endorsements, including one from another political maverick, Sen. Joseph Lieberman.

The Connecticut senator, an independent who was the Democrats' 2000 vice presidential nominee, was scheduled to announce his support for McCain at a town hall meeting Monday morning in Hillsborough.

A Lieberman adviser said the senator decided to back McCain despite being a Republican because he believes his colleague from Arizona "has the best chance of uniting the country in its fight against Islamic terrorism."

The adviser, who spoke on the condition of anonymity in advance of the formal announcement, said Lieberman would continue to caucus with Senate Democrats, and said his decision was not a reflection of any lingering tension with his old party after high-profile Democrats abandoned him when he lost the Democratic primary during his 2006 Senate re-election campaign.

One 2008 White House contender, Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York, supported Lieberman in the primary, but said after he lost, "I'm going to just hope Senator Lieberman will take a hard look at this and do what is best for Connecticut and the Democratic Party."

Another leading Democratic candidate, Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, donated $5,000 to the Democratic nominee, Ned Lamont, and sent an e-mail just before the general election saying, "Please join me in supporting Ned Lamont with your hard work on-the-ground in these closing weeks of the campaign."

Lieberman subsequently won re-election with an independent candidacy and has since been the darling of many prominent Republicans, including former White House adviser Karl Rove, for pushing a hard line in support of the country's war in Iraq. McCain also supports the war, calling it a critical battlefront in the fight against terrorism.

A top McCain aide said: "They are obviously very good friends. McCain helped him in his re-elect, and the significance of the support he will help attract to McCain cannot be overstated."

The aide also spoke on the condition of anonymity prior to the Monday event, which the campaign generically advertised as "a major new endorsement."

Word of the endorsement follows several other high-profile announcements for McCain, including weekend endorsements by The Des Moines Register and The Boston Globe.

McCain has largely ceded the Iowa caucuses to front-runners Mike Huckabee and Mitt Romney, but the Register said, "McCain is most ready to lead America in a complex and dangerous world and to rebuild trust at home and abroad by inspiring confidence in his leadership."

The Globe, while not based in New Hampshire, circulates in New Hampshire's vote-rich southern tier. McCain has focused his campaign on the Granite State, hoping to repeat his 2000 victory over George W. Bush.

"The iconoclastic senator from Arizona has earned his reputation for straight talk by actually leveling with voters, even at significant political expense," the Globe wrote.

McCain has also picked up endorsements from The New Hampshire Union Leader, the state's largest newspaper, and The Portsmouth Herald.

"U.S. Sen. John McCain will tell you the truth, even if it costs him the election," the Herald wrote.

McCain, campaigning Sunday in Florida, said he expected the endorsements would help him with undecided voters, especially registered Republicans.

"All of them say the same thing - that I have the experience and the judgment to lead this country and that I have been the one who is presidential," the senator said. "Obviously that will help me as we get down in the last few weeks before the Iowa caucuses, New Hampshire primary, Michigan and South Carolina primaries and the Florida primary."

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Associated Press Writers Andrew Miga in Washington and Brendan Farrington in Fort Myers, Fla., contributed to this report.
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« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2007, 05:22:33 PM »

Birds of a feather!

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« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2007, 05:36:55 PM »

Ahaha, awesome.
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« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2007, 05:59:32 PM »

How long ago was it Joe was claiming, "I'll always be a Democrat?"  Better still imagine if he had actually been elected Veep with Gore.  Oh what the hell? John
knows where to get some cheap rugs in Baghdad and is desperate for a little help.
At least for we in the not so golden state, Joe's equivalent, Di Fi, has already endorsed Senator Clinton hasn't she?  Oops I forgot, Joe's an (I) even if he was elected by the GOP.
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« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2007, 06:08:03 PM »

How long ago was he claiming "Ill always be a Democrat"Huh? What nonsense. How long ago was it when the DEMOCRATS booted him out and tried to get someone else elected? They brought it upon themselves.
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« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2007, 06:22:58 PM »

Democrats with any sense of decency tired of Joe's kissing Dubya's ass. He deserved the dumping, but the votes for his election as an (I) came from Republicans instead of voting for the GOP candidate.

Will this finally cause Reid to develop some spine and kick him out of the caucus? I doubt it. Both that Reid might develop any spine or have the cajones to kick old AIPAC Joe out, though he should have never been taken in. totino, even some old
"yellow dog" Democrats still call it like it is.  Wink
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« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2007, 06:27:40 PM »

Perfect! Rino & Dino! laugh laugh laugh Wink

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« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2007, 06:40:24 PM »

Democrats with any sense of decency tired of Joe's kissing Dubya's ass. He deserved the dumping, but the votes for his election as an (I) came from Republicans instead of voting for the GOP candidate.

Will this finally cause Reid to develop some spine and kick him out of the caucus? I doubt it. Both that Reid might develop any spine or have the cajones to kick old AIPAC Joe out, though he should have never been taken in. totino, even some old
"yellow dog" Democrats still call it like it is.  Wink
He was kicked out simply for his view on the Iraq War. That is IT. He was not kissing Dubya's butt. And unlike Hillary, he didn't flip flop and then proceed to TRY to cover it up.

Who cares what Reid does. He has half of a brain, no cajones, and he's a flip flopper. He's a has been.

I'm afraid you don't call it like it is... You should watch out, your nose is a little bit brown from Hillary.....

Also, Joe nearly won the Democratic ticket. He had 48% of the vote. So stop acting like Democrats didn't support him.

And I'll leave you with a nice quote from Joe: "I'm a loyal Democrat, but I have loyalties that are greater than those to my party, and that's my loyalty to my state and my country."

It's a shame the rest of the Democrats don't see it that way

EDIT: I should also add that you are not using turncoat properly. Joe didn't turn his back on the party. The party leadership turned their backs on him because he wouldn't vote down the party lines. It's interesting that Pelosi and the like claimed the new congress was about "bi-partisanship", yet they throw out members who don't vote strictly down the party line. It's sad really.
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« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2007, 10:00:58 PM »

Democrats with any sense of decency tired of Joe's kissing Dubya's ass. He deserved the dumping, but the votes for his election as an (I) came from Republicans instead of voting for the GOP candidate.

Will this finally cause Reid to develop some spine and kick him out of the caucus? I doubt it. Both that Reid might develop any spine or have the cajones to kick old AIPAC Joe out, though he should have never been taken in. totino, even some old
"yellow dog" Democrats still call it like it is.  Wink
He was kicked out simply for his view on the Iraq War. That is IT. He was not kissing Dubya's butt. And unlike Hillary, he didn't flip flop and then proceed to TRY to cover it up.

Who cares what Reid does. He has half of a brain, no cajones, and he's a flip flopper. He's a has been.

I'm afraid you don't call it like it is... You should watch out, your nose is a little bit brown from Hillary.....

Also, Joe nearly won the Democratic ticket. He had 48% of the vote. So stop acting like Democrats didn't support him.

And I'll leave you with a nice quote from Joe: "I'm a loyal Democrat, but I have loyalties that are greater than those to my party, and that's my loyalty to my state and my country."

It's a shame the rest of the Democrats don't see it that way

EDIT: I should also add that you are not using turncoat properly. Joe didn't turn his back on the party. The party leadership turned their backs on him because he wouldn't vote down the party lines. It's interesting that Pelosi and the like claimed the new congress was about "bi-partisanship", yet they throw out members who don't vote strictly down the party line. It's sad really.

Your brown nose comment about Senator Clinton suggests you believe I might be a supporter which is hardly correct, but Hillary did support Joe's candidacy and Bill actually campaigned for him.  Shall I pull up those articles? 

Was CNN incorrect with their reporting in 2006?

Looks like an GOP election of Joe to me.

VOTE BY PARTY ID
TOTAL                Lieberman    Lamont    Schlesinger
Democrat  (38%)     33%    65%    2%
Republican (26%)    70%    8%     21%
Independent (36%)  54%           35%    10%

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2006/pages/results/states/CT/S/01/epolls.0.html

I couldn't agree more with your comments about Reid and thought I suggested  something similar,  but Joe is at the very least a piece of excretement of the lowest kind who IMHO, owes his total allegience only to AIPAC and would be far better suited to  Likud and the Knesset than the U.S. Senate.

LOL, am I now to be identified as anti-Semitic? 

I'm hardly surprised by Lieberman's choice it makes good sense for a Senator who by and large is a  loyal Repug, while continuing to caucus with the Democrats who've not shown the good sense to send him packing. 

And why not John?  He can use the help.  I even voted for him in 2000 in the CA open primary of that year to try to keep Bush off the ticket.

Much as I find the invasion and occupation of Iraq or the debacle in the desert (take your pick) the worst foreign policy error since Vietnam, I actually have considerable respect for McCain compared to the rest of the GOP "midgets" on the ticket.  Had he not chosen make his move to the rabid, religious right, sucked up to Dubya in the process and remained the "straight talker" I once believed him to be, he might have actually been a choice for me as there is no one running on the other side of the ticket I'm enamored of, but then that is no longer the case because of his choices. 

I held my nose and voted for Gore, but at that point, Joe was playing a different
game.  Not having him in the position of attempting to run as an incumbant Veep may be the only positive factor in losing that election. He waffles at least as bad and Reid. I'm one of those people who actually check voting records. I also find the Lieberman/Kyl Amendment to the Defense Authorization is as repugnant as it gets with Hillary's vote for it one more reason not to support Senator Clinton.

   
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« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2007, 10:23:34 PM »

BTW, totino, having taken a minute to familiarize myself with your profile, it appears what I've been talking about on some levels must be ancient history to you.  Can't help, but wonder how GOP involved you were in 2000 or maybe not yet quite old enough to vote in '06? 

Please feel free to inform me if my information is off base or incorrect, but sometimes it is better to have been involved rather than simply spouting current
talking points?

LOL, nothing like a great supporter of the reality and violence of actual combat who prefers going to war with a keyboard. Ah, the arrogance of youth especially those in support of a Party being led down a well oiled Alice In Wonderland rabbit hole by an AWOL, hero who spent his war on an Alabama bar stool.

Have a nice evening.  It's time for this old gal to take a break.
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« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2007, 10:31:36 PM »

Okay, the gloves are coming off right now.
DON'T YOU EVER EVER EVER INSULT ME LIKE THAT AGAIN. A supporter of violence who goes to war with a keyboard? The fact is you don't know jack about me. And the reality is, I'd be in the military right this god damn minute if I did not have health issues beyond my control.
You should pull your head out of your ignorant ass right this god damn instance as half of your posts don't even make sense.

Take another sip of the kool-aid wench
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« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2007, 11:01:18 PM »

My oh my what a sensitive young man you must be. Thank you for informing me that you're a keyboard warrior because you are physically unable to serve. However, it is no excuse for your lack of civility.

You are actually among a rather large group of those who had not the ability to serve because of physical disability, but have no problem sending others. We could begin with OxyRush and move on, but there is nothing to be gained by lowering myself to the level you seem to have no problem reaching down to.

While I may not know you, neither do you know me. And while anonymous on-line forums may be a location where one may chose not to use the manners, it is apparent you didn't learn from your mother, who I'm sure gave it her best effort,  I find your threat to "take the gloves off" only amusing. Am I supposed to quickly run away? Maybe have severe hurt feelings? Not lately, little fella,  and not now.

When you're ready to return to the topic of the post, AIPAC Joe's endorsement
of McCain, let me know.  You might also choose to educate yourself on the elections of 2000, 2004 and 2006 from a broader perspective rather than continuing to merely echo GOP talking points.

Nighty, night. 



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« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2007, 11:03:31 PM »

knock it off
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« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2007, 10:22:50 PM »

"My oh my what a sensitive young man you must be."

Nothing sillier than plainly insulting someone then backing out by calling them sensitive and pretending you don';t need to take them seriously. It's a typical cowards (read: bitch's) way out of an argument they can't back up.

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That would sound so much better if it was Totino and not you insulting based on character assumptions. Subsequently this whole paragraph is just lame.


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