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« Reply #15 on: December 26, 2007, 12:01:00 PM » |
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Their deaths make the arguments where final justice is concerned. Hawk? Hardly. Try antiwar.
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« Reply #16 on: December 26, 2007, 12:44:58 PM » |
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Their deaths make the arguments where final justice is concerned. Hawk? Hardly. Try antiwar.
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« Reply #17 on: December 26, 2007, 01:30:32 PM » |
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Misguided? Like hell. My GPS pointing me to WalMart when I specifically asked for the organic co-op is misguided.
Hitler was a deliberate perpetrator of evil, not some dupe. He advocated for, and put into practice, policies of genocide and destruction. Will Smith needs to get a f'ing life and get off that Hollywood ego-teat that passes for intellectualism.
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« Reply #18 on: December 26, 2007, 01:40:53 PM » |
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Misguided? Like hell. My GPS pointing me to WalMart when I specifically asked for the organic co-op is misguided.
Hitler was a deliberate perpetrator of evil, not some dupe. He advocated for, and put into practice, policies of genocide and destruction. Will Smith needs to get a f'ing life and get off that Hollywood ego-teat that passes for intellectualism.
Smith was implying, IMHO, that he felt his actions were for the good-not that they were good. Of course they were evil in the extreme. OswaldTheOsprey |
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« Reply #20 on: December 27, 2007, 06:33:02 AM » |
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How pathetic is that? Smith shoots his mouth off and says something utterly stupid, and he's being defended with the bigotry card?
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« Reply #21 on: December 27, 2007, 08:33:30 AM » |
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How pathetic is that? Smith shoots his mouth off and says something utterly stupid, and he's being defended with the bigotry card?
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« Reply #22 on: December 27, 2007, 09:20:19 AM » |
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I guess it goes to show that some people cannot speak without a cue card.
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« Reply #23 on: December 27, 2007, 09:47:23 AM » |
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I guess it goes to show that some people cannot speak without a cue card.
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« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2008, 12:24:39 AM » |
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The point he was trying to make was probably that no one believes themselves to be flying the black banner.
There are VERY few people who purposly do what they consider evil. In Hitler mind genocide, aggressive war and eugenics were justified because of a master race. However it is right to point out the insanity (aka mental dilusion) of this ideology. This understanding also does not take away the fact that we must fight against those who do evil.
Evil actions are accidentally taken by "good" men daily, a persons character is based upon what they accomplish not what they believe.
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« Reply #26 on: January 04, 2008, 12:43:51 AM » |
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OswaldTheOsprey, you must agree with that Will shouldn't be speaking about stuff like WWII and his IMHO's on the subject, especially when noone is sure about his education and knowledge onthe subject. I can say imho Stalin was nice man and ppl around him misguided him like you do but you never been there so am i to claim such things.
so let's keep imho for stuff like "this t-shirt is cool, imho" and not something that historically written by millions of different sources
now, i haven't seen what Will said exactly so i'm arguing with you protecting possible stupid statement by Smith but again i'm familiar what media capable of to distort words of ppl.
you as any victim of conspiracy fallen into deepest hole in your life trying to find new that are 99% different from other sources and believe those sources to be true... when neither of sources sayin truth but just trying to gain attention for commercial or fame purposes.
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« Reply #27 on: January 04, 2008, 05:03:01 AM » |
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OswaldTheOsprey, you must agree with that Will shouldn't be speaking about stuff like WWII and his IMHO's on the subject, especially when noone is sure about his education and knowledge onthe subject. I can say imho Stalin was nice man and ppl around him misguided him like you do but you never been there so am i to claim such things.
so let's keep imho for stuff like "this t-shirt is cool, imho" and not something that historically written by millions of different sources
now, i haven't seen what Will said exactly so i'm arguing with you protecting possible stupid statement by Smith but again i'm familiar what media capable of to distort words of ppl.
you as any victim of conspiracy fallen into deepest hole in your life trying to find new that are 99% different from other sources and believe those sources to be true... when neither of sources sayin truth but just trying to gain attention for commercial or fame purposes.
Indeed, I fully agree with you that people would be better off thinking before they speak and know whereof they speak. Many Hollywood figures love to run their mouths on issues. However, the First Amendment guarantees the right to open one's mouth and insert one's foot. OswaldTheOsprey |
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« Reply #28 on: January 04, 2008, 06:42:55 AM » |
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Same as anyones right to criticize or blame for anything. i'm not familiar with American law but there are some limitations of what you can and what you cannot say while you are a public person. Anyway i was speaking about morals and not lovely American game of "raping democracy"
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« Reply #29 on: January 04, 2008, 08:22:39 AM » |
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Same as anyones right to criticize or blame for anything. i'm not familiar with American law but there are some limitations of what you can and what you cannot say while you are a public person. Anyway i was speaking about morals and not lovely American game of "raping democracy"
I am not an attorney but I believe the limitation is on public figures' right to sue and not to speak. There are libel and slander laws of course. You are quite right in re morals. OswaldTheOsprey |
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