IAP Political Forum
December 01, 2008, 05:11:49 PM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

Login with username, password and session length
News: Support IAP -- join "High Society" with less fuss. Click "paid subscriptions" from your profile.
 
   Home   Blog Forum   Help Search Chat Login Register  
Digg This!
Pages: [1] 2 3   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: Will Smith On Hitler  (Read 1942 times)
OswaldTheOsprey
High Society
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +100/-123
Posts: 9,152



View Profile
« on: December 24, 2007, 12:41:16 AM »

Actor Will Smith is saying that Adolph Hitler was not a deliberately bad person, only misguided. He will most likely be ridiculed, but some believe Hitler a mere figurehead (especially after 1934) for sinister and evil butchers like Goering, Himmler and Heydrich. Keep thinking for yourself Will!

OswaldTheOsprey

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/wenn/20071223/ten-smith-hitler-was-a-good-person-c60bd6d_1.html?printer=1
Logged

Urbi et Orbi
micfranklin
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +69/-79
Posts: 1,264


Jak is still not pleased...


View Profile WWW
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2007, 06:46:24 AM »

The way Hitler was "misguided" was very, very, very deliberately bad.

But at least he wasn't justifying what Hitler did.
Logged



gex
Jr. Member
**

Karma: +1/-11
Posts: 65


View Profile
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2007, 08:13:46 AM »

The way Hitler was "misguided" was very, very, very deliberately bad.

But at least he wasn't justifying what Hitler did.

I agree, in his sick twisted way he was doing what he considered was good but sometimes the end doesn't justify the means and genocide of a people was just plain wrong.  The same could be said of terrorist, to them they are doing good in the name of God, we consider them evil since we can't comprehend how a sane individual could come up with terror as being a solution.
Logged
OswaldTheOsprey
High Society
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +100/-123
Posts: 9,152



View Profile
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2007, 08:34:43 AM »

The way Hitler was "misguided" was very, very, very deliberately bad.

But at least he wasn't justifying what Hitler did.

I agree, in his sick twisted way he was doing what he considered was good but sometimes the end doesn't justify the means and genocide of a people was just plain wrong.  The same could be said of terrorist, to them they are doing good in the name of God, we consider them evil since we can't comprehend how a sane individual could come up with terror as being a solution.

Good points. I still say that even if Hitler were simply misguided, Goering, Himmler and Heydrich were not-they were pure evil. Sinister butchers.

OswaldTheOsprey
Logged

Urbi et Orbi
OswaldTheOsprey
High Society
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +100/-123
Posts: 9,152



View Profile
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2007, 08:36:54 AM »

The way Hitler was "misguided" was very, very, very deliberately bad.

But at least he wasn't justifying what Hitler did.

No one can justify what happened. No sane person.

OswaldTheOsprey
Logged

Urbi et Orbi
gommi
Sr. Member
****

Karma: +27/-28
Posts: 373



View Profile
« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2007, 08:39:40 AM »

From Hitler's perspective, ultra-nationalism was necessary to revive the power and pride of his country. Unfortunately nationalism was expressed in a very violent way during the Holocaust.
Logged

\"Ideological and moral confusion are signs of a higher consciousness\".

__IAPer since 2004__
OswaldTheOsprey
High Society
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +100/-123
Posts: 9,152



View Profile
« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2007, 08:47:52 AM »

From Hitler's perspective, ultra-nationalism was necessary to revive the power and pride of his country. Unfortunately nationalism was expressed in a very violent way during the Holocaust.

Violent and unforgivable. Do not confuse Social Fascism with Hitler anymore than Democratic Socialism with Stalin. Between Hitler, Stalin and Mao they unfortunately made the word Socialism anathema to many people. Damn them!

OswaldTheOsprey
Logged

Urbi et Orbi
14-years-old-jane
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +29/-97
Posts: 744



View Profile
« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2007, 11:15:33 AM »

and what difference it makes?
Logged

Each time homosexuals make sex, 1-2 babies die and 1-2 constipations are solved ...
OswaldTheOsprey
High Society
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +100/-123
Posts: 9,152



View Profile
« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2007, 07:55:36 PM »

and what difference it makes?

It makes a difference of millions of dead people. Butchering swine hiding behind socialism.

OswaldTheOsprey
Logged

Urbi et Orbi
14-years-old-jane
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +29/-97
Posts: 744



View Profile
« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2007, 10:14:18 PM »

It makes difference for dead ? Uhm,, you right ... Yes dead ppl really have an argument there in "heaven/hell" about whom to blame , Hitler or group of 3 other Nazis who misguided Hitler but still Hitler made the call...

I know where you diggin though, seen hawks like you in my life...
Logged

Each time homosexuals make sex, 1-2 babies die and 1-2 constipations are solved ...
OswaldTheOsprey
High Society
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +100/-123
Posts: 9,152



View Profile
« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2007, 11:57:13 PM »

It makes difference for dead ? Uhm,, you right ... Yes dead ppl really have an argument there in "heaven/hell" about whom to blame , Hitler or group of 3 other Nazis who misguided Hitler but still Hitler made the call...

I know where you diggin though, seen hawks like you in my life...

Their deaths make the arguments where final justice is concerned. Hawk? Hardly. Try antiwar.

OswaldTheOsprey
Logged

Urbi et Orbi
HumanBeast
Newbie
*

Karma: +1/-3
Posts: 8


View Profile
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2007, 08:26:12 AM »

This reminds me of the plead to insanity arguements.  If Hitler was insane when he orchastrated the Holocaust, then he is innocent.  What an excellent defense for evil people.
Logged
OswaldTheOsprey
High Society
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +100/-123
Posts: 9,152



View Profile
« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2007, 09:48:46 AM »

This reminds me of the plead to insanity arguements.  If Hitler was insane when he orchastrated the Holocaust, then he is innocent.  What an excellent defense for evil people.

Fortunately, he saved us that trouble.

OswaldTheOsprey
Logged

Urbi et Orbi
SSaxdude
Newbie
*

Karma: +1/-6
Posts: 11


View Profile
« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2007, 10:56:55 AM »

I see what Will was saying. Hitler thought his actions were good, but in reality they weren't. He should have used different words, though.
Logged
OswaldTheOsprey
High Society
Hero Member
*****

Karma: +100/-123
Posts: 9,152



View Profile
« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2007, 11:04:22 AM »

I see what Will was saying. Hitler thought his actions were good, but in reality they weren't. He should have used different words, though.

Agreed. Welcome aboard!

OswaldTheOsprey
Logged

Urbi et Orbi
Pages: [1] 2 3   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.4 | SMF © 2006-2007, Simple Machines LLC
Joomla Bridge by JoomlaHacks.com
Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
Page created in 0.08 seconds with 27 queries.