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Author Topic: Does your location and education dictate your ideals?  (Read 656 times)
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« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2007, 11:05:53 PM »

Super Hot Gov. Sarah Palin (I love her)

I did a Google search to see what the hoopla was about:



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« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2007, 11:34:40 PM »

Super Hot Gov. Sarah Palin (I love her)

I did a Google search to see what the hoopla was about:



Wow! What a G.I.L.F.!

You're lucky...

Here's mine:



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Our Gov. Palin (did i mention i love her) is going to be on Vogue.

Here is a question I have. I've Herd that North East Democrats are a times more liberal then California, is that true?
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« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2007, 11:43:23 PM »

Well... that depends a lot on your defenition of "Liberal".

The NE is more about politics while CA is very "young", "retro" and "hip". I mean, with Hollywood, LA and San Fransisco all in the same state, it's not hard to believe that the entertainment industry is most important.

Meanwhile in the NE, "liberal" actually means something.

Again... it depends largly on how you define "liberal".
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« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2007, 11:53:00 PM »

umm....well like more about more spending, social programs, and well, i got the idea how they are now different from cali...i herd while i was in carolina that they were more left.
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« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2007, 06:02:42 AM »

The babes of the governor's mansions...Michigan's Gov. Granholm:

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« Reply #20 on: December 28, 2007, 09:47:44 AM »

I'M MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!

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« Reply #21 on: December 28, 2007, 11:25:18 AM »

Here is a question I have. I've Herd that North East Democrats are a times more liberal then California, is that true?
There are pockets of progressives, but believe it or not California overall has traditionally been a conservative state. Prop 187, Pete Wilson, Reagan, Nixon, Dukmejan, Ahnold, Feinstein, etc. The Hollywood elites and UC-Berkeley students may project a different image, but the state is much larger than just the LA and SF areas.
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« Reply #22 on: December 28, 2007, 04:04:28 PM »

I dunno if I should be giving this level of info on the net (I have been told never to give my contact details, surname, or exact location to anyone) but ... I am 15, and an exchange student from the UK at a Public School (private school to Americans) in Australia. My dad was (he died when I was young) Sir William and a highly decorated senior military officer with a Guards Regiment, and my mum is Lady ***********. Our family is a very old military one, and my ancestors fought alongside the Iron Duke at Waterloo.

I am telling you all this so I can answer the question posed in the OP. My education is not yet complete, so I can't answer that part, but my parents' place in society does influence my values to some degree. My mum is quite traditional and very fussy about manners and speech patterns (I get in trouble a lot for using slang and 'like' too much.)  My dad was more liberal (in the British sense of the word) in his outlook, but still something of a traditionalist.

So my ideals are a combination of traditional values (I am a monarchist, and support the peerage system,) and socialism to the limited extent of believing that we have the responsibility to look after the less fortunate in society (I think this was called noblesse oblige in the old days.)  I also believe that we were all created equal, irrespective of wealth and social standing. I learnt this from my dad, who despite his position and title, was the same with everybody - be he the dustman, or the Duke of Connaught. I would like to be like him when I am fully grown up.
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« Reply #23 on: December 28, 2007, 06:56:17 PM »

I'm a 19 year old college student. Grew up on the south side of chicago in a housiong project, but I was born in Harlem, New York. i'm half mexican half algerian, who loves the place I live but hate the people in charge. And I will be rich when I get older  Cheesy .
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« Reply #24 on: December 28, 2007, 06:57:52 PM »

I didn't realize how young this place is. At least half this board can't get drunk. I should've thrown an IAP New Year's Bash to get y'all loaded.
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« Reply #25 on: December 28, 2007, 07:49:36 PM »

I didn't realize how young this place is. At least half this board can't get drunk. I should've thrown an IAP New Year's Bash to get y'all loaded.

It's only the 28th... you still can...
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« Reply #26 on: December 28, 2007, 07:51:36 PM »

Get down here, then.
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« Reply #27 on: December 28, 2007, 07:58:12 PM »

Anyone who would like to share their stats are welcome.  It might be interesting to compare ideologies by location and education.
Born 1957 in Chicago, grew up on the outskirts of the city near Midway airport, the last 20 years in suburbs of DuPage county. Lifelong slo-pitch softball player (16", then 12"), spend my vacations hiking & backpacking. BA Southern Illinois University in Carbondale, middle-income manager in warehousing. Family was involved in the labor movement in 1920's & 30's, fighting for decent working conditions and a living wage. Taught at a young age that prejudice was wrong, was saddened when MLK was assassinated while most of my classmates celebrated.

Aside from GW Bush, I think LBJ was worst president in my lifetime. His Great Society, though well intended, fostered welfare dependency and discouraged marriage while his war in Vietnem was an obscene waste that destroyed the promise of the 1960's. LBJ's saving grace was signing civil rights legislation he knew would hurt his party, but that had the ill effect of pushing the South to the Republicans.

I vote for the lesser of two evils, the Democrats, because the environment is my #1 issue and because the Republicans first and foremost serve the interests of the wealthy few. In our electoral system in which money buys influence, the wealthy elite already wield political power out of all proportion to their numbers. I think the growing chasm between the rich and the rest of us corrupts and subverts what is supposed to be our representative democracy.

The social issues (abortion, homosexuality, religion) are of much less importance to me than changing a militaristic foreign policy that is alienating our friends, breeding more enemies, and draining our treasury. I knew Bush was lying about Iraq before the details of those lies came out. He and Cheney should have been impeached ten times over by now, but Congressional Democrats apparently value short-term electoral success more than their sworn duty to uphold Constitutional rule of law. The Republicans are worse, overwhelmingly siding with a secretive, criminal administration that ignores checks & balances and seeks to expand executive power in a perpetual war on a tactic.

The Republican mantra that government is the problem is only half right. Government isn't the problem when it serves the interests of an informed, engaged citizenry. Government is the problem when power is concentrated in a few who act in secrecy and hold themselves above the law.
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« Reply #28 on: December 28, 2007, 08:28:56 PM »

My mum is quite traditional and very fussy about manners and speech patterns (I get in trouble a lot for using slang and 'like' too much.) 

At your young age you already write better than most of us here at this forum. I hope you give us the benefit of your opinions on a lot of things because your perspective is quite unique and interesting.

As for saying "like" too much...as a father of an 18-year-old, all I can say is...good for your parents!!!

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« Reply #29 on: December 28, 2007, 08:49:39 PM »

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As for saying "like" too much...as a father of an 18-year-old, all I can say is...good for your parents!!!

I feel ya, brother. I have a 17 year old step-daughter.

Brutal.


I really think this generation of young people are going out of their way to sound ignorant as if it's some badge or something.
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