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« on: December 28, 2007, 07:51:46 AM » |
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I know threre are still some who believe inhaling smoke deep into the lungs is harmless....i guess that's why firemen wear oxygen masks....Oh, well.... Inhaled cannabis smoke has more harmful toxins than tobacco, scientists have discovered.
The Canadian government research found 20 times as much ammonia, a chemical linked to cancer, New Scientist said.
The Health Canada team also found five times as much hydrogen cyanide and nitrogen oxides, which are linked to heart and lung damage respectively. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7150274.stm |
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« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2007, 09:47:49 AM » |
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i bet few Americans are soon to sue the dealer as he never told them that Cannabis is more cancerous than tobacco.
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« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2007, 04:11:34 PM » |
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Okay so cannabis smoke has toxins and poisons in it....I'm not too surprised.
But how many people have died from cannabis or cannabis smoke compared to cigarettes or cigarette smoke?
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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2007, 07:18:12 AM » |
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Okay so cannabis smoke has toxins and poisons in it....I'm not too surprised.
But how many people have died from cannabis or cannabis smoke compared to cigarettes or cigarette smoke?
Irrelevant. It's like asking how many have died from heroin and alcohol. So what? Both kill....that's all that is needed to know. |
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« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2007, 08:19:10 AM » |
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Okay so cannabis smoke has toxins and poisons in it....I'm not too surprised.
But how many people have died from cannabis or cannabis smoke compared to cigarettes or cigarette smoke?
Irrelevant. It's like asking how many have died from heroin and alcohol. So what? Both kill....that's all that is needed to know. I don't think I agree with that analysis. It's about risk assessment. Like you said, alcohol kills, but not only is it legal but a great many people drink. Why? Because in moderation the risk is minimized. The same argument can be made for about speed limits. But we still have 75 to 70 mph speed limits. Why? Because it's a trade off. And one that I am not entirely comfortable with the government deciding for us... |
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« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2007, 04:55:10 PM » |
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I don't think whether a substance is legal or illegal makes any difference when it comes to mortality and morbidity.
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« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2007, 05:29:06 PM » |
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I don't think whether a substance is legal or illegal makes any difference when it comes to mortality and morbidity.
So shouldn't that mean we start banning alcohol now? |
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« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2008, 03:04:07 PM » |
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I know threre are still some who believe inhaling smoke deep into the lungs is harmless....i guess that's why firemen wear oxygen masks....Oh, well.... Inhaled cannabis smoke has more harmful toxins than tobacco, scientists have discovered.
The Canadian government research found 20 times as much ammonia, a chemical linked to cancer, New Scientist said.
The Health Canada team also found five times as much hydrogen cyanide and nitrogen oxides, which are linked to heart and lung damage respectively. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7150274.stmEveryone knows this already. The fact is that people know this and are willing to take the risk. The State has no right to stop them (the State's job is to uphold people's rights not to impose the morality of the majority on the minority). |
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« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2008, 03:19:55 AM » |
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I don't think whether a substance is legal or illegal makes any difference when it comes to mortality and morbidity.
Pandoras Box.........we tried that already. So shouldn't that mean we start banning alcohol now? |
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« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2008, 10:17:41 AM » |
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What? Another flawed study on MJ from Pat? What variety of cannabis did this noxious smoke come from? There are about 5000 varieties of cannabis. Each has discreetly different levels of chemicals in the smoke. They all smell and taste a little different. Does one variety of rose or onion have the same smell (chemical composition) as another? Also, one variety, or even sample, may have lots of ammonia in it (or not) due to how it was cured, and how it was grown. Temperature of the smoke when sampled may vary the concentrations of components as well. Were these factors all controlled? Were the levels of ammonia salts similar with water pipes and vaporizers? Let me guess, the actual paper hasn't been peer reviewed or replicated, and it costs $45 to read? I guess it makes a good case for potent weed: Better to smoke a hit or two of the Dank than waste your lungs smoking 4-5 hits of something with less cannabinoids to catch the same buzz. Also, the photo editors at The Beeb need to learn what ganj looks like. That pic in the article is pathetic.  |
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« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2008, 05:43:45 PM » |
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« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2008, 01:35:55 PM » |
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The Canadian government research found 20 times as much ammonia, a chemical linked to cancer, New Scientist said.
The Health Canada team also found five times as much hydrogen cyanide and nitrogen oxides, which are linked to heart and lung damage respectively. [/i] You know what I really don't understand? How people can read about all the awful pollutants they are putting in their bodies, yet still choose to smoke. Why on earth would you? I mean, hydrogen cyanide? Are people actually willing to breathe that stuff in?  |
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« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2008, 02:57:04 AM » |
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Also, the photo editors at The Beeb need to learn what ganj looks like. That pic in the article is pathetic. I know, right? You could get better shit from high schoolers! As for weed, there is one major difference between it and alcohol/ciggerettes. Weed is not physically addictive. If used sparingly, no major problems occur, and in fact, the benefits are discovered... much like red wine. |
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« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2008, 09:14:17 AM » |
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As for weed, there is one major difference between it and alcohol/ciggerettes. Weed is not physically addictive. If used sparingly, no major problems occur, and in fact, the benefits are discovered... much like red wine. What is red wine? I think you might be referring to scotch, bourbon or whiskey....but..... If used sparingly....say two fingers of a 12yr old scotch on the rocks after work should cause no major problems occur..... |
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« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2008, 11:32:25 AM » |
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lol Well, the word on the street is that red wine is actually good for your heart, or so say those fancy-shmancy doctors. Hey, if it's an excuse to drink, I'm not gonna fight it. My family has always been big wine drinkers. |
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