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« Reply #105 on: October 29, 2007, 04:45:19 PM » |
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To "prove that Iran has a bomb" before acting? LOL, That's a new one.
If Iran had currently nuclear bombs the arabs would be toast already.
...and Ahmadinejahd would be paving the way for the return of the XXII Imam.
Yeah, cause bombing him for no reason sounds like a FABULOUS idea...  I didn't know it was a crazy idea to actually PROVE he's making WMDs. Who woulda thought? It's crazy because you can't get a proof before, in the best case, they are barely weeks away from building their first nuke. I mean, by the time the IAEA reports formal proof, verified by their inspectors on the ground, such as discovering nuke detonators or cans full of enriched plutonium, Ahmadinejahd will be sitting on a dozen of nuclear warheads. Insofar, the IAEA guys won't formaly claim any proof before thay have seen it with their own eyes. So again, you're admitting there is NO PROOF. You have NOTHING. You're just floating this ridiculous fear as "evidence"? |
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« Reply #106 on: October 29, 2007, 05:09:49 PM » |
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. To "prove that Iran has a bomb" before acting? LOL, That's a new one.
If Iran had currently nuclear bombs the arabs would be toast already.
...and Ahmadinejahd would be paving the way for the return of the XXII Imam.
Yeah, cause bombing him for no reason sounds like a FABULOUS idea... I didn't know it was a crazy idea to actually PROVE he's making WMDs. Who woulda thought? It's crazy because you can't get a proof before, in the best case, they are barely weeks away from building their first nuke. I mean, by the time the IAEA reports formal proof, verified by their inspectors on the ground, such as discovering nuke detonators or cans full of enriched plutonium, Ahmadinejahd will be sitting on a dozen of nuclear warheads. Insofar, the IAEA guys won't formaly claim any proof before thay have seen it with their own eyes. So again, you're admitting there is NO PROOF. You have NOTHING. You're just floating this ridiculous fear as "evidence"? And you don't have proof they don't.  .. time will reveal all, either way. . |
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« Reply #107 on: October 31, 2007, 03:19:52 PM » |
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Of course that we don't have proof. If we had proof, the West would not be postoping new sanctions.
Building 3000 uranium centrifuges deep underground is economicaly and technicaly absurd if their goal is to produce electricity, yet, it's not a proof that their goal is a nuclear bomb.
That with 400 to 2000 centrifuge running, they should have quickely enough uranium to feed Busher's nuclear plant. Ironicaly they still import uranium rods from Russia.
That too, is not a proof that they want to build a bomb.
No. The only proof that we can get is that they gathered all the elements to create a bomb. How far from the bomb will they be by then?
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« Reply #108 on: November 01, 2007, 07:37:37 AM » |
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Of course that we don't have proof. If we had proof, the West would not be postoping new sanctions.
Building 3000 uranium centrifuges deep underground is economicaly and technicaly absurd if their goal is to produce electricity, yet, it's not a proof that their goal is a nuclear bomb.
That with 400 to 2000 centrifuge running, they should have quickely enough uranium to feed Busher's nuclear plant. Ironicaly they still import uranium rods from Russia.
That too, is not a proof that they want to build a bomb.
No. The only proof that we can get is that they gathered all the elements to create a bomb. How far from the bomb will they be by then? Your conclusion is based on how many centrifuges they have? That's like concluding how many guns I can make by adding up how much spare metal I have lying around. |
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« Reply #109 on: November 01, 2007, 01:16:22 PM » |
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. Of course that we don't have proof. If we had proof, the West would not be postoping new sanctions.
Building 3000 uranium centrifuges deep underground is economicaly and technicaly absurd if their goal is to produce electricity, yet, it's not a proof that their goal is a nuclear bomb.
That with 400 to 2000 centrifuge running, they should have quickely enough uranium to feed Busher's nuclear plant. Ironicaly they still import uranium rods from Russia.
That too, is not a proof that they want to build a bomb.
No. The only proof that we can get is that they gathered all the elements to create a bomb. How far from the bomb will they be by then? Your conclusion is based on how many centrifuges they have? That's like concluding how many guns I can make by adding up how much spare metal I have lying around. Well, since we are not privy to the knowledge of MOSSAD agents in Iran, we will just have to wait until Israel has proof positive. All we will know is when Israel makes Iranian Nuke site(s) go up in smoke, fire, and dust. . |
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« Reply #110 on: November 01, 2007, 02:35:01 PM » |
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Facts 11 out of 13 9/11 terrorists were from saudis origin Facts Saudi Arabia has one of the worst human rights abuses in the world Facts Women are treated as a second class citizen http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7068616.stmhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7066867.stmwith such beautiful records King Abdullah of Sudi Arabia has the audacity to criticize the brits for not acting on information passed on by the saudis on terrorist attacks. Now the saudio government is one of the biggest tyrrants and most corrupt government in the world but our beloved government is gonna kiss their arse because it serves our purpose in the 'war on terror' and our oil interests in the ME. |
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« Reply #111 on: November 01, 2007, 02:57:04 PM » |
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Abraxas,
The number of centrifuges is the core of the problem. Of course it's not enough to produce a bomb, but that brings them much closer.
What I wanted to point out is that their cnetrifuges cascades are supposed to produce uranium for electric plants, yet they import nuclear fuel from Russia.
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« Reply #112 on: November 01, 2007, 03:04:59 PM » |
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Don't worry Kactus, When Iran will have their nukes, they will punish Saudi Arabia. In fact the CIA, AIPAC, Israeli art students, Sarkozy and the Zionist "Argon" organisation, are secretely helping Iranians to build nuclear bombs for this purpose. But,... hush, hush..., that's the "The US allowed Iran to build nukes" theory to expose in 5 years. (For the moment, please stick with "F°911" and "No plane crashed into the Pentagon"). |
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« Reply #113 on: November 01, 2007, 03:22:08 PM » |
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Abraxas,
The number of centrifuges is the core of the problem. Of course it's not enough to produce a bomb, but that brings them much closer.
What I wanted to point out is that their cnetrifuges cascades are supposed to produce uranium for electric plants, yet they import nuclear fuel from Russia.
So does China and India. Russia is part of a plan to send spent nuclear fuel, which Iran then reprocesses. They're also looking at Finland and other Eastern European countries to do the same LINK. Your facts are right, but you're ariving at the wrong conclusions. |
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Either you repeat the same conventional doctrines everybody is saying, or else you say something true, and it will sound like its from Neptune.
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« Reply #114 on: November 01, 2007, 03:35:15 PM » |
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Abraxas,
"The reprocessing and storage would take place in facilities in Chelyabinsk in the Ural region." Not in Iran.
Your source doesn't talk about the same thing.
I was talking about ready to use uranium, Russia has to deliver to Iran at the moment.
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« Reply #115 on: November 02, 2007, 03:47:21 PM » |
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Don't worry Kactus, When Iran will have their nukes, they will punish Saudi Arabia. In fact the CIA, AIPAC, Israeli art students, Sarkozy and the Zionist "Argon" organisation, are secretely helping Iranians to build nuclear bombs for this purpose. But,... hush, hush..., that's the "The US allowed Iran to build nukes" theory to expose in 5 years. (For the moment, please stick with "F°911" and "No plane crashed into the Pentagon"). Am I supposed to take you seriously or just laugh at you? Dude either you have forgotten to take your morning pills today or just got off the wrong side of the bed Ooops I should watch out Ahmadienejad has called for he return of the messiah. I am doomed. Doh! You know the irony with people like you is that you actually do make people like Ahmadienejad your best pals. Please continue with the entertainment. Tell me Freddie what do these useless bureaucrats in Brussels get up to these days apart from talking lots of shit?  |
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« Reply #116 on: November 03, 2007, 04:41:11 PM » |
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No, Caktus, you don't have to take me seriousely. Nor do I with you. ...And yes Ahmy-dude is my best friend.  |
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