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« on: January 29, 2008, 05:41:57 PM »

"First viable black candidate for president"

"First African-American president"

"Of the Demcratic candidates for president, we have one female candidate and one African-American candidate"


These are all terms used to describe Barack Obama. I have a very simple question, why does everyone keep calling Barack Obama the first viable "black" candidate for president? Barack Obama is every bit as much white as he is black. His father was black and his mother was white. He is 50% black and 50% white. If anything is racist in this campaign, its the media and the public's insistence on making a half-black/half-white man 100% black and 0% white.

I have one daughter whose biological father was 100% African-American and whose biological mother was 100% white. When she was 5 years old she asked me "Daddy, am I black?". I told her she wasn't black OR white, and that she was her own special color. I would consider it an inexcusable injustice to tell my daughter she was white when she's clearly not. But I would consider it equally inexcusable to tell her she's African-American.

My point is, you can just as easily call Barack Obama white and you can black. So why in the world are we calling him black? Can anybody answer that? 
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« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2008, 06:48:35 PM »

Simple we live in a country where people label and judge by the color of your skin and not what your family tree is like.
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« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2008, 06:50:59 PM »

He has been converted by the Clintons, their surrogates and a media that the Clintons have played like a Stradivarius from the Barack who carried white Iowa into The Black Candidate.

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January raises a long-term question. If an African-American with as great a cross-racial appeal as Obama had in Iowa can be so easily ghettoized in three weeks to where whites and Hispanics, the fastest growing minority in America, recoil, when if ever can a black American be nominated or elected president?


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« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2008, 07:12:07 PM »

Who cares?
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« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2008, 07:29:52 PM »

"First viable black candidate for president"

"First African-American president"

"Of the Demcratic candidates for president, we have one female candidate and one African-American candidate"


These are all terms used to describe Barack Obama. I have a very simple question, why does everyone keep calling Barack Obama the first viable "black" candidate for president? Barack Obama is every bit as much white as he is black. His father was black and his mother was white. He is 50% black and 50% white. If anything is racist in this campaign, its the media and the public's insistence on making a half-black/half-white man 100% black and 0% white.

I have one daughter whose biological father was 100% African-American and whose biological mother was 100% white. When she was 5 years old she asked me "Daddy, am I black?". I told her she wasn't black OR white, and that she was her own special color. I would consider it an inexcusable injustice to tell my daughter she was white when she's clearly not. But I would consider it equally inexcusable to tell her she's African-American.

My point is, you can just as easily call Barack Obama white and you can black. So why in the world are we calling him black? Can anybody answer that? 

Ask your black friends this:
How many half black half white people do you know consider themselves white?

The fact of the matter is that if you look like you are partially black society views you as being black; therefore, you identify yourself as being black.  I know several mixed race individuals (black/white 50/50) and they all identify themselves as black.  Its ironic you mention this b/c I just had a conversation about this with a black student a few days ago.  Its even more prevalent (calling partially black people as just black) in the south.

not saying whether its right or wrong, just stating why Obama is called black....my point is that its not just him.  Its pretty much all racially mixed individuals with half black ethnicity.
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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2008, 07:42:52 PM »

You spent the time to write all this out, ryan?

You mean there's nothing more important to complain about?

Shame...
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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2008, 08:08:19 PM »

Media outlets do not want to be out done by the other. If one says something and another says something strikingly similar then all of them will parrot it. Doesn't really matter what it is. When you 'report' the news who cares what the news is so long as you can cover your 30 min time slot or make your 2000 words.

FoxMbcCnnBbcNbcTimesPostHearlds do not satisfy investors or commercial time payers by educating anyone. That is so ridiculously beyond the time+effort vs profit limit it's not funny.  Just look at education. No they're paid to fill time with talk and pictures in the most attention-getting manner they can get away with. Even if it's in a sly, slick chic manner.

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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2008, 08:18:47 PM »

"First viable black candidate for president"

"First African-American president"

"Of the Demcratic candidates for president, we have one female candidate and one African-American candidate"


These are all terms used to describe Barack Obama. I have a very simple question, why does everyone keep calling Barack Obama the first viable "black" candidate for president? Barack Obama is every bit as much white as he is black. His father was black and his mother was white. He is 50% black and 50% white. If anything is racist in this campaign, its the media and the public's insistence on making a half-black/half-white man 100% black and 0% white.

I have one daughter whose biological father was 100% African-American and whose biological mother was 100% white. When she was 5 years old she asked me "Daddy, am I black?". I told her she wasn't black OR white, and that she was her own special color. I would consider it an inexcusable injustice to tell my daughter she was white when she's clearly not. But I would consider it equally inexcusable to tell her she's African-American.

My point is, you can just as easily call Barack Obama white and you can black. So why in the world are we calling him black? Can anybody answer that? 

Ask your black friends this:
How many half black half white people do you know consider themselves white?

The fact of the matter is that if you look like you are partially black society views you as being black; therefore, you identify yourself as being black.

I'm reminded of a line in "To Kill a Mockingbird".

"…but around here once you have a drop of Negro blood, that makes you all black."
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« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2008, 08:29:49 PM »


My point is, you can just as easily call Barack Obama white and you can black. So why in the world are we calling him black? Can anybody answer that? 

Its a combination of descriptive writing and stereotyping by the media. The media like to put labels onto people purely for descriptive purposes.

Thus you will see constant labels as "black" "latino" "chinese" "ex husband of" "disgraced businessmen" "wife to" etc etc.

Its nothing to do with racism or positive discrimination. Its purely stereotyping labelling.
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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2008, 08:34:46 PM »

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Ask your black friends this:
How many half black half white people do you know consider themselves white?

None, nor should they. They are not white. Nor are they black. Not that I don't see your point. It's not like Obama has done anything to dispel the myth that he is black. But I suspect this is because right now it politically convienient for him to be "black". 

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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2008, 08:51:52 PM »

He looks black. Thus, growing up, he was more than likely treated like he was black.


Stop looking for racism.
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« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2008, 03:19:59 AM »

I thought he was tan.

You're saying this Obama fellow has negro blood? Have you contacted the media?
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« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2008, 07:54:48 AM »

He's black. Get over it.
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« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2008, 08:38:33 AM »

The history of our country accounts for why it is a big deal.....it is the first time in our 231 year history a black man has gotten this far in Presidential politics....it is the first time in world history a black man has the ability to lead the worlds only superpower.....the next black man to run will not have as much attention....especially if Obama wins.

It IS a big deal.....whether or not you know it....you are watching history being made.
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« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2008, 06:49:56 PM »

I should also mention something I heard in my poli sci class yesterday. We were having a debate and most of the students in the class said they would vote for Obama over Clinton, but one of them says they would do it solely because he's black.

I didn't feel the need to say anything and I go to a mostly-black college.....
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