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Author Topic: History Channel, "Anthrax Attack was an INSIDE JOB"  (Read 1419 times)
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« Reply #105 on: February 14, 2008, 12:20:45 PM »

Maybe you should try reading the constitution.

I know you're smart enough to understand that the constitution is a living document, and can thus be interpreted to say whatever one wants it to say.  This is how the system has been working for a very long time.  But I guess that's ok, so long as one's own regime is in power.

I wonder what the War on Terror would have looked like under a Gore Administration.  I bet it would have been exactly the same, with all the liberal windbags backing their president 100% as he re-organized the government in the exact same way that our president has done.  The only difference being that they would have targeted domestic rightwing Christians, as opposed to foreign Muslims.

The constitution has a well defined roll for the federal government.

Have you read what the founding fathers said about the general welfare clause?

Have you read what the founding fathers said about jury nullification?

Have you read what the founding fathers said about judicial activism?

Have you read Justice Hugo Black's dissent in Griswold vs. Connecticut? According to Justice Black, where did the Supreme Court get the power to decide ALL THINGS CONSTITUTIONAL?

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« Reply #106 on: February 14, 2008, 12:22:22 PM »

Maybe you should try reading the constitution.

I know you're smart enough to understand that the constitution is a living document, and can thus be interpreted to say whatever one wants it to say.  This is how the system has been working for a very long time.  But I guess that's ok, so long as one's own regime is in power.

I wonder what the War on Terror would have looked like under a Gore Administration.  I bet it would have been exactly the same, with all the liberal windbags backing their president 100% as he re-organized the government in the exact same way that our president has done.  The only difference being that they would have targeted domestic rightwing Christians, as opposed to foreign Muslims.
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« Reply #107 on: February 14, 2008, 12:30:12 PM »


Ever read about what was done to Gary Webb?

Thats a good point Pond. And of course we need independent investigative journalists to write about government cover ups or immoral things that governments do, that they don't want anyone to know about.

But honestly, you can't compare Alex jones and Prison planet to Gary Webb. Like chalk and cheese.

The point that Biker made some posts back about irony with people who say we are gullible and swallow all mainstream media info, is a good one.

To illustrate the point, as a random exercise, you should google this topic and read replies from everyone who posted in all the different forums(thousands) on this topic.

The outcome. The article is posted(word for word indentical to this one) and these are the average responses from posters who reply.

- Now, the truth has come out. I always knew they covered it up
- I always knew Bush was involved with this
- This proves what i was saying all along, that Bush planned 911
etc etc etc

The majority of people, don't even watch the video. Noone raises the point that it was the conspiracy part of the history channel that showed it. Noone researches to see who they think did it, or what investigations the FBI had done. They don't question anything at all. They just accept what is written(because it is posted on a forum and because it has the words 'history channel' next to it.

For me, that is pure sheep mentality. And that is what you accuse people of ridiculing conspiracy theories are; sheep. Hence the "Irony" phrase.

Not, that I am saying we should accept mainstream media all the time. We need investigative journalists and people with scruples to keep the government honest. But I am not sure that conspiracy sites who make profits out of gullible and "believe anything that is on the internet' people is the sort of medium we should be turning to, in our search for truth.


Alex Jones is not that bad. He gives a voice to those who the mass media ignores. I believe even Ron Paul has been on Alex Jones.

Of course, no one should believe all information from any single source.

Another good example of our sold out mass media is what was done to Charles Key. He was ripped to shreds by the media for having the audacity to (gasp) ask for an independent investigation into the OKC bombing?

What is so bad about asking for an independent investigation?

Why did the FBI refuse to accept Jayna Davis' evidence regarding the OKC bombing?

The mass media is controlled. Not 100%, but enough to further the goals of the elites.

Alex Jones provides a valuable service. Giving a voice to those whom the mass media ignores. It is up to each individual to sort the truth from the fiction. Yes, many people are eager to believe anything bad about the government, just as many people are eager to believe anything good about thew government. There are sheep on both sides of the fence.
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« Reply #108 on: February 15, 2008, 07:03:39 PM »

Maybe you should try reading the constitution.

I know you're smart enough to understand that the constitution is a living document, and can thus be interpreted to say whatever one wants it to say.  This is how the system has been working for a very long time.  But I guess that's ok, so long as one's own regime is in power.

I wonder what the War on Terror would have looked like under a Gore Administration.  I bet it would have been exactly the same, with all the liberal windbags backing their president 100% as he re-organized the government in the exact same way that our president has done.  The only difference being that they would have targeted domestic rightwing Christians, as opposed to foreign Muslims.
So you're one of those.  No, it's not a living document.


There is a difference between, "it shouldn't be a living document" and "it's not a living document."

The difference exists between what is, and what should be.

The reality is that it has been used as a living document by the leftwing to consolodate and solidify their power ever since the Civil War (or War Between the Two Parties).

You've got to understand that if one side decides not to play by the rules (historically the leftwing), then the good guys are fools if they continue to abide by the rules and lose everytime.  In this case, the end justifies the means.  You've got to understand that we're dealing with criminals, not citizens.
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« Reply #109 on: February 15, 2008, 08:48:22 PM »

And I guess you've got to understand that being a criminal doesn't mean you are not a citizen. 

You've said some things I could actually agree with from time to time, but I think I find your fundamental philosophy abhorrent.
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« Reply #110 on: February 16, 2008, 09:03:05 PM »

Maybe you should try reading the constitution.

I know you're smart enough to understand that the constitution is a living document, and can thus be interpreted to say whatever one wants it to say.  This is how the system has been working for a very long time.  But I guess that's ok, so long as one's own regime is in power.

I wonder what the War on Terror would have looked like under a Gore Administration.  I bet it would have been exactly the same, with all the liberal windbags backing their president 100% as he re-organized the government in the exact same way that our president has done.  The only difference being that they would have targeted domestic rightwing Christians, as opposed to foreign Muslims.
So you're one of those.  No, it's not a living document.


There is a difference between, "it shouldn't be a living document" and "it's not a living document."

The difference exists between what is, and what should be.

The reality is that it has been used as a living document by the leftwing to consolodate and solidify their power ever since the Civil War (or War Between the Two Parties).

You've got to understand that if one side decides not to play by the rules (historically the leftwing), then the good guys are fools if they continue to abide by the rules and lose everytime.  In this case, the end justifies the means.  You've got to understand that we're dealing with criminals, not citizens.

Allright, here you make a valid point.

Yes, what is and what should be are two different things.

What should be is that our government is supposed to follow the constitution. What is appears that the government can do whatever they want, since the people are too busy watching sports, American Idol, OPRAH, or LOST, to give a crap about the future of their country. I guess that's why I like to go to discussion forums, to discuss issues with Americans who actually care about the future of this country.
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« Reply #111 on: May 30, 2008, 12:16:27 PM »

The FBI concluded there was no connection between the two Senators selected, and that the media targets chosen were chosen to ensure the highest level of media coverage.

It wasn't a Bush inside job, it was somewhere else within the Military establishment, and was directed against Bush's policies that were weakening the BWC of 1972.
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« Reply #112 on: May 31, 2008, 09:17:29 PM »

Our controls on anthrax are less secure than our controls on plutonium, and people steal our plutonium. (Where do you think the Israelis got the info and materials for their nukes?)

Nothing is unstealable. Any lock can be picked, any security can be overcome.

The only safety is the grace.

No, that is NOT true. 

Weaponized AIMES STRAIN ANTHRAX is, by far, more secure than nuclear INFORMATION, and probably more secure than plutonium materials.  Having plutonium and the info needed to enrich it, is not enough to kill anyone, nor is it that difficult to obtain anywhere in the world given enough money and access.  Notice you mention ISRAELI spy's.  It's the Israeli's or the Chineese we always catch spying and stealing info and materials.  Massive money, massive influence, and intelligence level access to materials and information resulted in thefts of government secrets and materials but they then don't turn around and attack us and our politicians with the info and materials.  They take it back to their country and use it to develop their own weapons. 

But AIMES STRAIN WEAPONIZED ANTHRAX will kill you dead right on the spot.  Now, even if it was stolen, why don't we know about it?  Why haven't we been informed that this strain of anthrax had been comprmised?  Why did the Bush Administration go on Anthrax two weeks prior to the attack?  If it was spy's that did it, which countries hold enough influence and access to get a hold of this stuff?  And why aren't we investigating them?

Yes, every lock can be picked, but the idea of, "some guy," breaking into a Anthrax weapons lab and stealing this stuff, then using it to attack politicians and journalists here in the US, isn't plausible.  It is certainly possible that foreign governments and their spy's could access this, given enough money, infuence and access to this stuff.  If it was Israeli or Chinese spy's, well, that's certainly more plausible, but the idea that they used it against two US politicians and a US journalists and NOT just stealing it back to their country for their own development, is where this scenario breaks apart.  If spy's did it, they wouldn't attack us with it, they would study it.

So, "some guy," who would use it to attack people he wants to murder can't do it because he doesn't have the money, influence, or the access to the material to do it.

And, while a foreign countries spy's might have the money, influence, and access to the materials, they wouldn't use it to kill people, they would use it to further the development of their own weaponized anthrax.

So, that leaves the people who have access to it becasue the are allowed access to it.  The defnse establishment.  Therefore, INSIDE JOB.

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