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Author Topic: anti-blasphemy laws- vital or not!  (Read 509 times)
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« on: February 11, 2008, 12:02:34 PM »

For decades, the church try to set anti-blasphemy laws in order respect religious sentiment of million believer, in 1989 a group of atheists described church as "the most criminal organization in history" which provoked Christian official leaders again to seriously put laws similar to anti-defamation rules.

Blasphemy scandals series has made real challenge to believers: "Salman Rushdy, "The Last temptation of Christ", Prophet cartoon, Da Vinci Code...etc

In Britain there is an old, little-used law against blasphemy, and a new law that outlaws incitations to religious hatred. However the former explicitly applies only to the Anglican Church,
Germany has an anti-blasphemy law dating from 1871, but it has been little used in recent decades
France outlawed blasphemy at the time of its revolution in the late 18th century; the law has never been reinstated.

In US there were some laws in the founding days:
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Section 36. Whoever willfully blasphemes the holy name of God by denying, cursing or contumeliously reproaching God, His creation, government or final judging of the world, or by cursing or contumeliously reproaching Jesus Christ or the Holy Ghost, or by cursing or contumeliously reproaching or exposing to contempt and ridicule, the holy word of God contained in the holy scriptures shall be punished by imprisonment in jail for not more than one year


Religiously speaking we have some texts from bible:

He who blasphemes the name of Yahweh, he shall surely be put to death; all the congregation shall certainly stone him: the foreigner as well as the native-born, when he blasphemes the Name, shall be put to death Leviticus 24:16

Everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but those who blaspheme against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven Luke 12-10

Anyway, it seems that even existed those laws are not seriously applicated- do you think that Laws should be reviewed and reinforced?


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« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2008, 12:05:00 PM »

I do not think defending any one religion is the place of our government.  Defending freedom to practice your religion of choice is one of it's jobs.
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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2008, 12:11:06 PM »

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Defending freedom to practice your religion of choice is one of it's jobs.

yep, but "defending freedom to practice religion' need abolishing hatred and harming believers sentiment.
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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2008, 01:41:03 PM »

As Richard Dawkins said, blasphemy is a victimless crime.

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yep, but "defending freedom to practice religion' need abolishing hatred and harming believers sentiment.

Harming believer's sentiment?

Why should that be a crime? Because religious beliefs should go unchallenged?
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« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2008, 01:43:43 PM »

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Defending freedom to practice your religion of choice is one of it's jobs.

yep, but "defending freedom to practice religion' need abolishing hatred and harming believers sentiment.
No, I think it is an unrealistic expectation to expect to never get your feelings hurt.  And I don't believe it is the place of government to attempt to protect peoples feelings.  We do not need 'thought crimes' which is basically what you are on about.  Who cares if someone hates you?  Big deal!  And if they do something to act on that hatred, there are already laws enough to deal with that. 
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« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2008, 02:49:54 PM »

As an American I have an obligation to protect the rights of others to believe whatever they want, but people do not have a right to be protected from different ideas. If debate or public discourse becomes intimidation and violence then there is definatly a problem. But pointing out the different beliefs on issues or opposing long held beliefs is NOT something that should be banned. The right to not be offended is NOT a right that should exist.
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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2008, 04:56:59 PM »

We do not need 'thought crimes' which is basically what you are on about.  Who cares if someone hates you?  Big deal!  And if they do something to act on that hatred, there are already laws enough to deal with that.

This idea is great, I think you should run with it....write a movie script and call it "Minority Report".......
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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2008, 06:11:42 PM »

Patton were you being sarcastic or do you support blasphemy laws?
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« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2008, 07:58:07 PM »

It depends what type of country/society it is.

In a normal democratic society, I can't really see any need for the blasphemy laws as long as you are not inciting hatred or violence.

However some the of the islamic countries tend to go a bit overobard when their religion is critisized(eg Danish cartoons) so I can understand why the governments are keen to discourage blasphemy, to maintain law and order.

In the end it comes down to common sense.

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« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2008, 09:48:33 AM »

Patton were you being sarcastic or do you support blasphemy laws?

Factinista I'm disappointed....my post had sarcasm all over it....it was a fun follow up to Biker...plus....I never give this posters subject matter much relevance anyway......
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« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2008, 10:16:25 AM »

Let's make that movie Patton.  As long as that aweful Tom Cuise isn't in it!
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« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2008, 01:53:07 PM »

Just be carefull if he is, cuz you can't make fun of Scientology! lol
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« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2008, 08:10:54 PM »

Let's make that movie Patton.  As long as that aweful Tom Cuise isn't in it!

I actually thought Danny DeVito should be the lead.......
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« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2008, 07:51:55 AM »

We do not need 'thought crimes' which is basically what you are on about.  Who cares if someone hates you?  Big deal!  And if they do something to act on that hatred, there are already laws enough to deal with that.

This idea is great, I think you should run with it....write a movie script and call it "Minority Report".......

As "pious" christian, do you prefer Biker opinion to Biblical statements about blasphemies?

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« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2008, 07:57:47 AM »

Antiblasphemy laws are indeed existing in many countries; I think in 2005-2006 a rock concert blaspheming God name in Germany was forbidden by authority!

However those laws are quite discreet  and not really activated as anti-diffamation rules!
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