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« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2008, 04:17:56 AM » |
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You mentioned something about Chicago... and said the reason we have a rating system is because games cause violent behavior. I'm asking you to prove it... not explain it.
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« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2008, 10:24:10 AM » |
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Kids see far more violence in television and movies, and it's a lot harder to tell that those are not real versus a video game.
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« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2008, 10:31:49 AM » |
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Kids see far more violence in television and movies, and it's a lot harder to tell that those are not real versus a video game.
AFAIK, they are the same. Of course, I also expect you Mod's to stick together and protect one another from us evil posters!  "Beware of thin skinned Mod's."BTW, I own a Domain, and have been an ADMIN, Super-Mod, and Mod. I enjoy life so much more than when I have to 'work'.  -Terry |
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« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2008, 10:34:50 AM » |
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Very informative answer...
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« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2008, 02:01:35 PM » |
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This is total rubbish. Why exactly would kids mix up video games with reality?
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« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2008, 02:09:55 PM » |
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This is total rubbish. Why exactly would kids mix up video games with reality?
That's what the police would love to know. An eight year old in Chicago was killed by a policeman some time ago. The kid (who was a gamer) had a loaded weapon aimed at the policeman. Bad situation. You cannot compare adult logic to a child, as most parents know. |
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« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2008, 02:16:46 PM » |
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This is total rubbish. Why exactly would kids mix up video games with reality?
That's what the police would love to know. An eight year old in Chicago was killed by a policeman some time ago. The kid (who was a gamer) had a loaded weapon aimed at the policeman. Bad situation. You cannot compare adult logic to a child, as most parents know. Of course he was a gamer - most kids are! On what basis can you say that his gaming caused this and not some other factor (psychological problems would be my bet)? |
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« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2008, 03:40:19 PM » |
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This is total rubbish. Why exactly would kids mix up video games with reality?
That's what the police would love to know. An eight year old in Chicago was killed by a policeman some time ago. The kid (who was a gamer) had a loaded weapon aimed at the policeman. Bad situation. You cannot compare adult logic to a child, as most parents know. Of course he was a gamer - most kids are! On what basis can you say that his gaming caused this and not some other factor (psychological problems would be my bet)? Go ask the police, or any cops for that matter. I wouldn't worry if I were you, your life isn't on the line. Gawd, we have some real bright sparks in here who don't know what children make into reality from a virtual world. Pathetic. "You don't die, you just morph again!"  |
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« Reply #23 on: February 17, 2008, 04:54:45 PM » |
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You still offer no proof that the reason a kid would hold a gun to a cop is because he plays video games. You just assume that.
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« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2008, 05:43:40 PM » |
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You still offer no proof that the reason a kid would hold a gun to a cop is because he plays video games. You just assume that.
Ditto you! .. I'll believe the cops, ty. |
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« Reply #25 on: February 17, 2008, 06:18:57 PM » |
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Has Jack "video games are teh devil" Thomson responded to the NIU shooting?
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« Reply #26 on: February 17, 2008, 08:12:17 PM » |
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You still offer no proof that the reason a kid would hold a gun to a cop is because he plays video games. You just assume that.
Ditto you! .. I'll believe the cops, ty. Yeah, who needs proof or any line of reasoning, when you can just take somebody's word for it? |
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« Reply #27 on: February 17, 2008, 08:37:56 PM » |
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Terry, I'm sorry, but you're totally full of shit and the smilies in your post relay a very cavalier attitude toward the situation. I tried doing your job for you by linking ANYthing to this shooting of an 8-year-old in Chicago - but my Googling powers have thus far come up short. Why don't you give it a try. I also take some offense to your contemptuous attitude toward video games and how, since the kid played them, they must surely explain his behavior. I'm sure this kid also liked chocolate. Does this mean kids who like chocolate are more likely to commit violent acts? Basically, IamMe is absolutely right in pointing out that mostly ALL 8-year-old kids play video games and it's completely inapropriate to blame them for their behavior. Correlation is NOT proof of causation. Surely you knew this already. Until you show a shred of proof that makes your point, I'll have to consider your wittless attempt to prove video games cause violence to be a catostrophic failure.  |
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« Reply #28 on: February 17, 2008, 08:53:34 PM » |
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You still offer no proof that the reason a kid would hold a gun to a cop is because he plays video games. You just assume that.
Ditto you! .. I'll believe the cops, ty. Yeah, who needs proof or any line of reasoning, when you can just take somebody's word for it? Are you a bloody whingeing Pom? or do you not understand well? |
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« Reply #29 on: February 17, 2008, 09:42:08 PM » |
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I haven't seen you prove your hypothesis Terry. Were you going to back it up, or is bluster the best we can expect?
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