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Author Topic: Boycott/Cancel Beijing Olympics  (Read 1132 times)
Dormouse
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« Reply #30 on: April 07, 2008, 10:39:05 AM »

Speaking of Taiwan, isn't it strange how they haven't seized the oppurtunity?

What is odd about wanting to avoid WW3?  Seems rather rational to me.

It is long-standing US policy that any Chinese military move against Taiwan is an act of war against the USA.  China isn't stupid.

Btw, the Chinese haven't quite perfected their plans for taking out the US Carriers.  You won't see a move on Taiwan until they do.

I know China wouldn't move against Taiwan and that's not what I meant. I meant action by Taiwan, like, say, developing their military?
Why bother?  Taiwan couldn't build a military large enough to deter China and the very act of doing so will only just antagonize China and increase the likelihood of a Chinese military operation against Taiwan.


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« Reply #31 on: April 07, 2008, 11:28:37 AM »

And you think anyone will intervene on behalf of Tibet? I could make the same claim that this run for soverignty is just a waste too.

China won't budge and no one will move against them... so "why bother"?
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« Reply #32 on: April 07, 2008, 01:37:36 PM »

And you think anyone will intervene on behalf of Tibet?
No. There is virtually zero probability of any nation standing up for Tibet with anything other than a few stern words.

As I said, the US-led boycott of the Moscow games in 1980 was a waste of time and effort as was the Russian-led boycott of the 1984 LA games. 

These Olympic boycotts are useless for politics and only hurt the athletes.

I could make the same claim that this run for soverignty is just a waste too.
Okay.

China won't budge and no one will move against them... so "why bother"?
Indeed.  As I noted above, the pro-Tibet protesters do not appear to have 'political protest' as their primary goal - the goal appears to be one of disruption.
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« Reply #33 on: April 07, 2008, 08:38:07 PM »

When China was chosen as the venue for the Olympics they agreed to drastically improve their human rights record. I'm sure you are all aware that they have not done so: the Chinese still do not enjoy basic rights like free-speech (never mind democracy etc.) and have supported the Darfur genocide.

So clearly the Olympics should not be held there. It is not too late to make a stand on this issue.

I have been confusing that what business are there to do with you , in terms of China's human rights record?
I rack my brain and can not get to the bottom of this f..king question.

To intervene into others internal affairs will doom to a backfire on your face! Will you ever learn a lesson from the US?
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« Reply #34 on: April 07, 2008, 11:47:19 PM »

Intervention has in some cases lead to rather positive results. Not all intervention are done trough military means, and some military interventions actuall payed off.

Personally the detterent of Nukes from China will probably ensure no military intervention takes place. If you want to put pressure on China you have 2 options, massive worldwide supported economic boycot (which will probably be impossible looking at China's current economic might). Or offer/give them something and ask something in return, I read an entire paper regarding the ineffectiveness of economic boycots on China.
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« Reply #35 on: April 08, 2008, 01:52:07 PM »

Just a quick counter to the idea that the olympics are apolitical:

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"The goal of Olympism is to place sport at the service of the harmonious development of man, with a view to promoting a peaceful society concerned with the preservation of human dignity."
Olympic Charter, fundamental principles of Olympism
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