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« Reply #45 on: March 02, 2008, 01:08:11 PM » |
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Kosovo is a classic case of American Imperialism interfering where they least have any clue what is going on. Same like their interference into sectarian clashes into Iraq.
I mean, why do you support the split of Bosnia-Hertzegovina from motherland Yugoslavia, but don't support the idea of two states: Palestine and Israel, side by side. Because there are striking similarities between both scenarios: Bosnia are muslims, Palestine are muslims, so why you support those muslims but not the others? Just because Serbs don't kiss ass to America, let's just show them who's the boss!
And back to the Kosovo problem: this is called collective punishment for Serbs who dared to stand against US and even gave US a lesson in how the real tough people know how to fight.
Here is one American who agrees wholeheartedly with your post. OswaldTheOsprey |
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« Reply #46 on: March 02, 2008, 01:23:24 PM » |
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Kosovo is a classic case of American Imperialism interfering where they least have any clue what is going on. Same like their interference into sectarian clashes into Iraq.
I mean, why do you support the split of Bosnia-Hertzegovina from motherland Yugoslavia, but don't support the idea of two states: Palestine and Israel, side by side. Because there are striking similarities between both scenarios: Bosnia are muslims, Palestine are muslims, so why you support those muslims but not the others? Just because Serbs don't kiss ass to America, let's just show them who's the boss!
And back to the Kosovo problem: this is called collective punishment for Serbs who dared to stand against US and even gave US a lesson in how the real tough people know how to fight.
Here is one American who agrees wholeheartedly with your post. OswaldTheOsprey I would use the phrase "American foreign policy" instead of "American Imperialism" and Yugoslavia has never been the Motherland of anyone (even Serbs) and it's not because Serbia doesn't lick american's **** (in fact actualy they do it now) but because Milosevic licked Russian's **** (a move that NEVER pays off). Except these little details I agree with you. |
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« Reply #47 on: March 02, 2008, 01:46:09 PM » |
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So "Imperialism" tickles your senses, but "Foreign Policy" fits your agenda?
Tell me, how thick are your glasses? Maybe we should increase your prescription?
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« Reply #48 on: March 02, 2008, 01:56:42 PM » |
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Fredledingue,
I don't mean to be rude with my previous comment, rather my sarcasm is intended to question if you are really thinking that maybe 90% of the world population is wrong about America's intentions worldwide.
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« Reply #49 on: March 02, 2008, 02:05:53 PM » |
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Kosovo is a classic case of American Imperialism interfering where they least have any clue what is going on. Same like their interference into sectarian clashes into Iraq.
I mean, why do you support the split of Bosnia-Hertzegovina from motherland Yugoslavia, but don't support the idea of two states: Palestine and Israel, side by side. Because there are striking similarities between both scenarios: Bosnia are muslims, Palestine are muslims, so why you support those muslims but not the others? Just because Serbs don't kiss ass to America, let's just show them who's the boss!
And back to the Kosovo problem: this is called collective punishment for Serbs who dared to stand against US and even gave US a lesson in how the real tough people know how to fight.
Here is one American who agrees wholeheartedly with your post. OswaldTheOsprey I would use the phrase "American foreign policy" instead of "American Imperialism" and Yugoslavia has never been the Motherland of anyone (even Serbs) and it's not because Serbia doesn't lick american's **** (in fact actualy they do it now) but because Milosevic licked Russian's **** (a move that NEVER pays off). Except these little details I agree with you. Well, I am an old fashioned isolationist. I wish nothing but the best for all nations, but having said that, they should look out for themselves and we likewise should look out for ourselves. OswaldTheOsprey |
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« Reply #50 on: March 05, 2008, 07:03:49 AM » |
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Fredledingue,
I don't mean to be rude with my previous comment, rather my sarcasm is intended to question if you are really thinking that maybe 90% of the world population is wrong about America's intentions worldwide.
America's intention worldwide is the same intention the Spanish had in the 17th century, the Brits in the 19th century, the Julio Cesar's Rome, Napoleon.......no democracy in international relationships between countries. |
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« Reply #51 on: March 05, 2008, 08:55:45 AM » |
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Fredledingue,
I don't mean to be rude with my previous comment, rather my sarcasm is intended to question if you are really thinking that maybe 90% of the world population is wrong about America's intentions worldwide.
America's intention worldwide is the same intention the Spanish had in the 17th century, the Brits in the 19th century, the Julio Cesar's Rome, Napoleon.......no democracy in international relationships between countries. You are absolutely right about America as an empire. Some Americans, particularly Pat Buchanan have been saying this for years. OswaldTheOsprey |
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« Reply #52 on: March 05, 2008, 06:46:20 PM » |
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So "Imperialism" tickles your senses, but "Foreign Policy" fits your agenda?
Tell me, how thick are your glasses? Maybe we should increase your prescription?
I'm partial to the term "hegemony", since it captures our specific role better than "empire". Either way, I'm uneasy about it. |
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« Reply #53 on: March 08, 2008, 04:13:36 PM » |
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The independence of Kossovo is not legitimate. Through the present petition, we urge the countries which have recognized Kossovo's independence to rescind their decision. In the eyes of international law, this independence is neither legitimate nor legal with regard to the minorities living in the cradle of Serbian culture. History has taught us that poking one's nose in the Balkanic powder keg always leads to dire internationational consequences. http://1883.lapetition.be/ |
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« Reply #54 on: March 08, 2008, 04:21:25 PM » |
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It might be interesting if you provided what the basis of your particular view is.
Also, posting the exact same post in multiple thread constitutes spamming and the posts will be deleted.
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« Reply #55 on: March 09, 2008, 01:41:59 PM » |
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So "Imperialism" tickles your senses, but "Foreign Policy" fits your agenda?
Tell me, how thick are your glasses? Maybe we should increase your prescription?
First policy or not, it doesn't fit my agenda. Second, in the case of Kosovo, we can't talk of American imperialism. I don't see how a military strike done by Clinton is serving Bush's Imperium. It's not very important, but if you want to keep a certain level in this conversation you have to use such word carefuly and explain why you use this word. |
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« Reply #56 on: March 10, 2008, 04:01:03 PM » |
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Imperialism or whatever is called, the fact is that U.S is getting closer to Russia's border, through the Baltic ex-soviet states from the north, Afghanistan from south (while at the same time tackling Iran)
So this Kosovo move is the latest attempt to get closer through Eastern-Europe, they already got Romania, Bulgaria, Poland former Warsaw-pact now brand new NATO-pact members.
That's why I'm asking: how else can you see this coming?
Do you play chess? That's the same thing. If you're a smart player you see it coming a few moves ahead.
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« Reply #57 on: March 12, 2008, 01:35:45 PM » |
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Well, wherever you land on the Eurasian continent, unless you carefuly choose South Thailand or Portugal, you are likely to find yourself close to the Russian border.  It's realy funny: You can't cross two countries without stumbling on a Russia border in this region... |
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« Reply #58 on: March 31, 2008, 03:59:24 PM » |
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Here is an interesting article, in the March 24 issue of The American Conservative, on the general situation in the Balkans. William S. Lind asks "What would Bismarck do?". OswaldTheOsprey http://amconmag.com/2008/2008_03_24/print/articleprint2.html |
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« Reply #59 on: April 24, 2008, 06:52:04 PM » |
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I am not Serbian or Albanian, but I think that Serbia should have been given the predominantly Serbian part of Kosova, it should have been divided and part given to both. I am in support of Kosova independence though (contrary to what I "should" believe), maybe this will encourage Albania to get out of their economic slump (its a very poor country), and better itself. I don't understand why the US cares so much, I am not an expert at American politics (I just move here), but it seems irrational that they support Albania so much.
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