Is he?

From 2000

"The tax plan announced on Jan. 11 by Sen. John McCain would provide little or no benefit to the three-fifths of taxpayers who earn less than $39,000 a year; it also offers little to the one percent of taxpayers who make more than $319,000. Instead:

- More than half of McCain's proposed tax cuts would go to taxpayers making between $65,000 and $130,000 a year, a group that includes 15% of all taxpayers.

- Most of the rest of McCain's tax cuts would be divided between the 20 percent of taxpayers making between $39,000 and $65,000 (who get 21% of the cuts) and the 4 percent of taxpayers making from $130,000 to $319,000 (who get 19%).

- Overall, the McCain plan would cut taxes by about $500 billion over ten years."


I don't know why we're arguing, Reaganite. We both hate the guy. The only difference is I see Obama as the least dangerous where as you think the world's going to end cause a Democrat got elected.

I tolerated one Democrat (Bill Clinton) and it went alright. A Republican (George Bush) comes in and makes a series of choices I completely and utterly disagree with (ranging from education to immigration to foreign policy to the economy) and I wanna try something different.

I didn't get Ron Paul like I voted for, so I'll go with the guy I think is most tolerable as president.

See, unlike you, when I disagree with someone, I do so based on policy. It takes real effort to find a Republican you don't like and you're almost willing to oppose that person based on fact... but if you see a (D) next to their name they simply aren't whorth your time. You're never even willing to discuss a Democrat without frothing at the mouth.

You're a real disgrace, Reaganite, you know that?

then tell me how Europe stays afloat. Europe has free universal healthcare. That means you come to a clinic without any "insurance", any "eligibility", any medical history that allows them to turn you down, you just get your treatment, I mean that's pure GULAG, that's Stalinism, Red Terror, by the American measure that's pure evil, extreme ultra-left, Pol Pot, KGB. They also have free university. And in France, u practically can't fire employees. Lots of subsidized housing. And they have strikes every afternoon, demanding higher and higher and higher wages. Teachers, postmen, drivers. By your prediction, Europe must be as dead as Karl Marx. But they don't have recession. Depression let alone.

Now all he needs to do is win Texas and it's pretty much over as far as momentum going in his direction. But like I have said I won't get my hopes up because seeing is believing when it comes to politics and this superdelegate process .

When one considers the aspirations of Bush coming into office, the case could be made that HE was the 'change candidate.' He was proposing radical change to SS and education before they were squashed by special interests.

He didn't have the 'hope' part down, though.

Pretty much but the thing is that to the average person Bush didn't have that race factor for himself and he had his daddy do the same job years earlier.

perrin, I found an unedited version and listened several times...and the truth lies somewhere in the middle, IMO.

She didn't emphasize the 'REALLY' but she did say it. I would say that by the reaction of the crowd, they were a little surprised to hear her say it. I think their first reaction was to be taken back by it.

But at the same time, I don't think she was being anti-American or vicious. At least I hope not.

it looks different from under black skin. Maybe Michele Obama couldn't be proud before because of the US policy towards South Africa. Or because there had, and stil has, remained virulent but stifled racism among the Southern WHite mainstream. Maybe because there was the "WHite Flight" from the cities into the racially pure suburbs, which she took as a manifest rejection of racial intergration. Maybe because there were totally surreal grandiose military expenditures in the absense of a commeasurable threat at the whim of the military manufacturers, while people, especially blacks, were dying regularly because they were denied medical attention. Maybe. Maybe she found it hard to be proud of that.

I agree but politics have gone from real issues down to 10 second bytes. Obama has surged into the polls on nothing more than one word....'HOPE.' The marketing is brilliant. His marketing is the exact opposite of, say, Ross Perot, who buys and hour of air time to explain things.

It doesn't sell. Short words do.