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Author Topic: Part of the world is starving to death...  (Read 884 times)
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« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2008, 12:40:18 PM »

I agree 100% Gain.

Half the world is dying because they aren't getting enough to eat, the other half is dying because they eat too much crap.

While we're at it, half of the world is dying because they work too hard and the other half isn't getting enough exercise/movement while at work.



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« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2008, 08:17:24 AM »

So now we have a "global food crisis"...

Great Roll Eyes

And why do we have a food crisis? Because people thought it would be a better idea to grow corn for bifuel (a concept that should have NEVER left the drawing board, let alone influence public policy) instead of food.

I used to read Chomsky for his non-interventionist essays, but I've started to read his essays on fledling labor unions and the rise of a "global elite". In my International Relations class we're studying Critical (Marxian) theory and in 1997 5% of the world's population controlled 1/3 of the world's wealth. You would need to take the poorest 80% to get a similar wealth.

And the difference is RISING...

WTF?!

I got nothing else but extreme confusion and anger... and a sense of total helplessness.
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« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2008, 03:33:42 PM »

... and WE'RE freaking out cause people are too fat everywhere else?
That should, in itself, make it obvious that obesity and starvation are not physical states dependent upon the amount of food produced.

The issue here is clearly one of justice, equality, economics and distribution systems.  The ability to produce food is not really an issue of primary concern.  It is the political will to control food that is the issue.

Btw, obesity is mighty profitable...
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« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2008, 07:27:09 PM »

... and WE'RE freaking out cause people are too fat everywhere else?

That should, in itself, make it obvious that obesity and starvation are not physical states dependent upon the amount of food produced.

The issue here is clearly one of justice, equality, economics and distribution systems.  The ability to produce food is not really an issue of primary concern.  It is the political will to control food that is the issue.

But when poor countries have to export all the food they produce to Agri-buisnesses but import the food they need from the same Agri-buisnesses, the issues of "production" and "equality" get muddled together.

Poor countries aren't sometimes allowed to produce their own food.

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Btw, obesity is mighty profitable...

Damn right...
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« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2008, 07:13:04 AM »

But when poor countries have to export all the food they produce to Agri-buisnesses but import the food they need from the same Agri-buisnesses, the issues of "production" and "equality" get muddled together.
Huh?  Most poor countries can't/don't export food.  Lack of water/money for irrigation is the primary reason for this.

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Poor countries aren't sometimes allowed to produce their own food.
Can you give an example of this?  It sounds absurd.

Reality of the world-wide food market is that North American farmers can put 1/2 the farmers on the planet out of business.  Thus, every country on the planet subsidizes food prices at home and subsidizes their farmers (to protect them from North American agribusiness flooding their markets).  In Canada and USA, we subsidize our farmers (and agro-corporations) not to grow as much stuff.

World food trade is all about barriers put up by all parties because of this unfortunate state of world food production.

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Damn right...
This explains part of what your topic is about. 

Selling food to poor people isn't very profitable.  Selling endless amounts of subsidized sugar and carbs to Americans is.
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« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2008, 11:18:38 AM »

... and WE'RE freaking out cause people are too fat everywhere else?

Quote from: BBC News
Obesity 'requires climate plan'

Obesity needs to be tackled in the same way as climate change, a top nutritional scientist has said.

The chairman of the International Obesity Taskforce wants world leaders to agree a global pact to ensure that everyone is fed healthy food.

The rest...

I'm disgusted an appauled Angry ...

Each country should think for its own when it concerns food, in best case neighbour countries can help if THEY HAVE STABLE ECONOMY. When poor ppl get aid they loose legitimacy to work, to create own economy and the rest what normal society does.
Social Darwinism ffs...
On other hand, being fat is mostly bad looking, totally unhealthy and deadly after certain age. All that "I AM what i AM" and other American crap should be formatted from CIA's hard drives.

Now for you suggestion! alias,  "yankie lyposaction waste directly to Kazakhstan". I agree !
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« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2008, 01:31:22 AM »

obviously, that's a task for the governments to tackle. bring in the government. Regulate regulate regulate. Oblige people to be healthy, prohibit people to be sick. Regulate. Each citizen must have a healthy calory in-take. Regulate the bastards. Begin with inducting fines for being spotted with a burger on the corporate time. Encourage physical exercise with higher wages.

Regarding Americans, their success culture is keeping them on the run, hence the need to eat fast. Time is money. Even when the actual need to compress time is no more, the habit is already instilled. Besides, Americans don't have the soccer culture. They don't have a sport that can entertainfully provide a few kilometres of run to average dude any time any place. Soccer is easy to organize, we just put two pairs of smth (say, shoes or bottles) on any space, and the balls are always with us. Or simply pass the ball each other. Easy. But go try to organize baseball. After hundreds of bucks spent on equipment and whole lot of time spend preparing the throw, you only run 10 metres, and the murderously dull cycle begins all over. With what they call "football", it's similar, in that, they only practise throws, or what they call it. A daddy throws the ball, and the son catches it, and that's it. Very little running is done. Talking about average folk playing "football" in the backyard. With basketball it's better; but whites barely play it. And again, they mess around under the same basket installed in the backyard, or schoolyard, with little running. Let them play "soccer" instead.
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