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Author Topic: Why Israel is Allowed to Have Nukes and not Muslim Nations?  (Read 1126 times)
Terry Mathis
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« Reply #45 on: January 30, 2008, 10:36:24 PM »

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Israel will insure Iran never gets nukes

by pushing America into war.

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Israel has checks and balances.

America sends cheques, Israel draws balances.

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US gives Egypt just as much aid, dollar for dollar, as we give to Israel.


dollar for dollar, not dollar for citizen. And now u get what u paid for: Mubarak kicking Gazans back into Gaza. That's why u give him aid.

Israel has the right to defend itself. It's just that the self keeps expanding. More and more territory to defend. I have an unOrthodox idea: what if Israel tries to defend the actual self, that is, limits its self-defense to its national borders. Historically, it has been tought to defende the self in other people's territory. Happened to Germany in the 40s, etc. Germany tried to defend itself in Stalingrad, and overdrew the resources balance. May I suggest reducing the area to be defended by abandoning West Bank, East Jerusalem and Golan Heights? Try, it may help. Self-defense might get so much more effective.



Pisces,

Will you please give credit to those you quote by naming them?

As far as the defence line being taken back to the pre-1967 borders, how would anyone get to the West Bank? Egypt and Gaza is a natural but then again. the Omelet and Abbas are negotiating all that. As far as the Gaza/Egyptian border, everyone has their finger in the pie as to how that will work. I prefer that Egypt annex Gaza but they don't want them (I wouldn't want them either).


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« Reply #46 on: February 20, 2008, 12:47:34 PM »

Quote from: Ahmadinejahd, President of  Iran , to chants from the crowd of 'Death to America' and 'Nuclear energy is our obvious right.'
The Iranian nation's will to continue nuclear work has won over the will of big powers ... (and) brought them to their knees,

What a goof. Such a goofball comment is enough to prohibit them from aquiring nuclear power under any form, IMO.

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« Reply #47 on: February 20, 2008, 02:14:26 PM »

Quote from: Ahmadinejahd, President of  Iran , to chants from the crowd of 'Death to America' and 'Nuclear energy is our obvious right.'
The Iranian nation's will to continue nuclear work has won over the will of big powers ... (and) brought them to their knees,

What a goof. Such a goofball comment is enough to prohibit them from aquiring nuclear power under any form, IMO.

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Fred, he is just a mouthpiece to spread disinformation.


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« Reply #48 on: February 20, 2008, 02:28:57 PM »

Terry, pleaze..We both know that Mossad is 4,000+ years old, so don't mess with us. We can un-kosher your arse from distance, we are mission-capable.
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« Reply #49 on: February 20, 2008, 02:38:58 PM »

Terry, pleaze..We both know that Mossad is 4,000+ years old, so don't mess with us. We can un-kosher your arse from distance, we are mission-capable.


Any day, any time, my place Pisces.  Grin
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« Reply #50 on: February 20, 2008, 03:23:45 PM »


Just for you Pisces:

http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=5042


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« Reply #51 on: February 20, 2008, 11:44:23 PM »

Of course other countries except Israel in the Near East deserve to have nuclear the weapons. The Islamic countries are good and obey to law of sharia not similarly to sinful and to the most evil jews. Jews from the devil, and therefore by any which supports their such as the United States. It would be a good thing if Iran it had nuclear weapons. That would make safe place a peace. They also could protect against the savages of Israel of bloodthirsty.
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« Reply #52 on: February 21, 2008, 01:47:55 AM »

Of course other countries except Israel in the Near East deserve to have nuclear the weapons. The Islamic countries are good and obey to law of sharia not similarly to sinful and to the most evil jews. Jews from the devil, and therefore by any which supports their such as the United States. It would be a good thing if Iran it had nuclear weapons. That would make safe place a peace. They also could protect against the savages of Israel of bloodthirsty.


I take it you are anti-semetic?  Roll Eyes
.. you at least show Islam in a positive light (not). Why don't you do us all a favour and get banned quickly so we don't have to put up with your BS..
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« Reply #53 on: February 21, 2008, 01:52:28 AM »

One wonders if with his assasination peace is ever gonna be achieved.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article3362293.ece

Olmert realising the magnitude of this is now distancing himself from the assasinaton whilst he congratulated the head of Mossad for his active role in the mission and asked him to stay in office until the end of 2009.
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« Reply #54 on: February 21, 2008, 02:04:36 AM »

One wonders if with his assasination peace is ever gonna be achieved.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article3362293.ece

Olmert realising the magnitude of this is now distancing himself from the assasinaton whilst he congratulated the head of Mossad for his active role in the mission and asked him to stay in office until the end of 2009.



If the whole Mid-East is to survive, Israel and the Arabs and Palestinians will have to learn to live peacefully with each other. There is no other way. With Iran thrown in, you have a real fruitcake of a mess.  Sad

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« Reply #55 on: February 21, 2008, 08:16:51 AM »

Kactus,
It can be Mossad or any of the other muslim clan rival to Hezbullah.
Deas't change much anyway.
Iranian Mullahs talking the talk, but not walking the walk until they have a few nukes.
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« Reply #56 on: February 21, 2008, 08:25:38 AM »

Kactus,
It can be Mossad or any of the other muslim clan rival to Hezbullah.
Deas't change much anyway.
Iranian Mullahs talking the talk, but not walking the walk until they have a few nukes.


Yeah Fred, it doesn't change anything much. Except for the makeup. We can't ignore Syrian involvement either.


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« Reply #57 on: February 21, 2008, 03:00:03 PM »

Kactus,
It can be Mossad or any of the other muslim clan rival to Hezbullah.
Deas't change much anyway.
Iranian Mullahs talking the talk, but not walking the walk until they have a few nukes.

Fred,
The point is this guy went unnoticed for more than 20 years. CIA had been on his case but couldn't capture him. I doubt if any clan rival to Hezbollah would have assasinated him as you have suggested. Now that Mossad has executed the operation the finger of the blame will be raised towards Israel, which Olmert is trying very hard to distance himself or perhaps shift the blame to someone else.
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« Reply #58 on: February 21, 2008, 03:11:54 PM »



Syria or Hizbollah.  Wink
.. can't count them out either.
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« Reply #59 on: February 21, 2008, 04:07:59 PM »

Kactus,
Blame? Which blame? Why would Olmert feel a blame for killing a top terrorist?

IMO the guy could have been blown apart just because he didn't give back the $5,000 he borrowed from another islamic group. Can be as simple as that.
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