Republicans to Troops: Take a Hike (in Iraq)

Dog Face 11B

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Re: Republicans to Troops: Take a Hike (in Iraq)

« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2007, 01:41:55 AM »

Quote from: freethinker on September 20, 2007, 02:37:38 AM

Quote from: Dog Face 11B on September 20, 2007, 01:02:55 AM

Damn this thread is ate up with a bunch of dumbass......then the Democrats wonder why the democratic congress has record low approval ratings.....they are lazy and scared of the wacko anti American left then blame republicans for their failures......what exactly has the democrats done since taking control of congress? thats right....not a goddamn thing other than whine......frickin bunch of whining ass babies.....yes that goes for the majority of them here.....

Doggy face : Do you understand what a filibuster is? Do you understand how legislation gets through congress? Do you understand that a piece of legislation needs 60 votes in the senate to override a filibuster being conducted by the opposition on that bill? Do you understand that with the filibuster activated by the republicans the bill can not be voted on ,on the floor dispite a MAJORITY of support?? Do you understand that the Dem's in congress have razor thin majority margins especially in the senate? Do you understand that at least half of the diaproval is directed at the republicans in congress?? If you do understand these things then you are playing dumb and that is disingenuous and inexcusable. If you don't understand these things you have just been informed.

Whining as usual you punk......lets see, republicans cannot get anything done because of democrats doing the same damn thing and that is good news to you.....democrats cannot get anything done because republicans using or threatening to use a filibuster and you whine like a 4 year old baby that just had its sucker stolen by the play yard bully....

But when you hold the majority, razor thin or not, you are still the majority so the majority of the fault lands directly on your shoulders.......

I know, after being out of power for so long and to finally get it back only to fail miserly is a heart breaker for you libs.....suck it up little man.....


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Re: Republicans to Troops: Take a Hike (in Iraq)

« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2007, 05:51:52 AM »

Quote from: Dog Face 11B on September 21, 2007, 01:41:55 AM

Quote from: freethinker on September 20, 2007, 02:37:38 AM

Quote from: Dog Face 11B on September 20, 2007, 01:02:55 AM

Out of curiosity, did you say the same thing when Republicans "whined" about the Democrats use of the filibuster? Were you for the removal of the filibuster that the Republicans threaten to do? Please answer so we can get an idea of exactly how partisan you truly are so we know how serious to take you in the future. So far, it doesn't look good for you. I may have to start referring to you as Spell Jammer or Pathetic.


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Re: Republicans to Troops: Take a Hike (in Iraq)

« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2007, 11:13:53 AM »

Quote from: jpn of Seattle on September 20, 2007, 06:17:58 PM

Quote from: Opmod on September 20, 2007, 10:09:47 AM

I would be interested in knowing exactly what those bills said before I passed judgement on them but you JPN, where In the military. Infact you where an officer. So you know as well as I do how badly putting mandatory terms on people like as much in the US as outside would place.

Which is easier given the nature of deployments and troop postings? To have 1 guy serve 1 year i Iraq then 1 year at another place? I do not know about you but I do not know ANY 1 year postings. More likely it would lead to 2 years overseas and 2 years elsewhere. So you want to send soldiers to Iraq for 2 years instead of 1?

Plus there would have to be more soldiers released from posts to go overseas, leading to more civilians needing to be hired to fill those jobs.

The DC voting one is simple and its politics of course. DC is overwhelmingly democrat, it would give the Dems another seat. Of course the Repubes don't want that.

Iraq had been a 1 year deployment for the Army, but they recently increased it to 15 months because they are stretched so thin. The Marines have held firm on keeping their scheduled deployments to 7 months, although many units have been extended beyond that duration. National Guard troops are only deployed for 12 months at a time.

As for the DC voting, the bill included giving another Congressional seat to Utah, which almost certainly would be a gain for the Republicans. So in fact, the bill was quite balanced. I don't understand why the Republicans blocked it.

Another representative seat you mean? But another Senatorial seat for DC would seriously upset the current power structure. Not to mention the fact that the VP would not longer be able to break ties. Or at least there would no longer be the NEED for the VP to break ties.

As for deployments, my point is that there is far more involved with changing deployment schedules than simply waving a pencil. To say that the repubes said "Go take a hick" is disingenuous to say the least.


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Re: Republicans to Troops: Take a Hike (in Iraq)

« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2007, 11:34:23 AM »

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Whining as usual you punk......lets see, republicans cannot get anything done because of democrats doing the same damn thing and that is good news to you.....democrats cannot get anything done because republicans using or threatening to use a filibuster and you whine like a 4 year old baby that just had its sucker stolen by the play yard bully....

But when you hold the majority, razor thin or not, you are still the majority so the majority of the fault lands directly on your shoulders.......

I know, after being out of power for so long and to finally get it back only to fail miserly is a heart breaker for you libs.....suck it up little man.....

Doggie face: Not whining...just trying to inform a partisan doodle bug of the realities of government function. Pardon me for trying to inform the apparently ignorant. Roll Eyes


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Re: Republicans to Troops: Take a Hike (in Iraq)

« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2007, 05:26:21 PM »

Quote from: Opmod on September 21, 2007, 11:13:53 AM

Every state gets two Senators. Changing that would require a Constitutional Amendment. Per the bill in question, Utah would have gained another seat in the House of Representatives, which is populated on the basis of proportional representation, along with the District of Columbia. So each party could be expected to gain one seat.

As I wrote.

As for the complications involved in changing deployment schedules, yes, I agree that it would create some headaches for the military logisticians. I would prefer those headaches to the dead and wounded soldiers. The point of the Webb Amendment was to force the military to begin drawing down the number of troops in Iraq, since cowardly Republicans and our cowardly, idiot president are so determined not to admit that they stuck us in a quagmire and don't have the guts to get us out.


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Re: Republicans to Troops: Take a Hike (in Iraq)

« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2007, 07:20:31 AM »

Quote from: Perrin on September 21, 2007, 05:51:52 AM

Quote from: Dog Face 11B on September 21, 2007, 01:41:55 AM

Quote from: freethinker on September 20, 2007, 02:37:38 AM

Quote from: Dog Face 11B on September 20, 2007, 01:02:55 AM

No because unlike many of you libtards here I know the filibuster is a tool used by the party out of control to voice their opinion about a bill they disagree with and dont want to become law without a fight.

But maybe I should start calling you rethinker, freethinker or Buzz because you are just as much a partisan hack....in the case of Buzz and freethinker idiots...as they are.....


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Re: Republicans to Troops: Take a Hike (in Iraq)

« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2007, 05:06:22 AM »

Quote from: Dog Face 11B on September 23, 2007, 07:20:31 AM

Quote from: Perrin on September 21, 2007, 05:51:52 AM

Quote from: Dog Face 11B on September 21, 2007, 01:41:55 AM

Quote from: freethinker on September 20, 2007, 02:37:38 AM

Quote from: Dog Face 11B on September 20, 2007, 01:02:55 AM

Thanks for proving my point.

Doggy face : Do you understand what a filibuster is? Do you understand how legislation gets through congress? Do you understand that a piece of legislation needs 60 votes in the senate to override a filibuster being conducted by the opposition on that bill? Do you understand that with the filibuster activated by the republicans the bill can not be voted on ,on the floor dispite a MAJORITY of support?? Do you understand that the Dem's in congress have razor thin majority margins especially in the senate? Do you understand that at least half of the diaproval is directed at the republicans in congress?? If you do understand these things then you are playing dumb and that is disingenuous and inexcusable. If you don't understand these things you have just been informed.


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