John Murphy
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« on: February 22, 2008, 04:10:49 AM » |
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I am writing to you about something that I feel is very important. I hope after you read this you will want to help. If you read the papers or watch the news you will realise how crazy today's world is. We have wars in the middle east, tribal conflict in Kenya, and here in the west we have drugs, prostitution, and gang violence. All these things make me wonder what will become of us if we don't change our ways.
I began to think how could we change things for the better. Then it came to me prayer was the answer. If EVERYONE prayed for the same thing God would answer us. So why do we not have a WORLD PRAYER DAY. The idea being EVERYONE around the world praying simultaneously. People can try to pray 20 mins first asking for forgiveness, then asking for world peace. Though all religions are different they all have the same base of good moral standards. I do not believe any religion will oppose this idea.
This may sound to you like an impossible task, but I believe WORLD PRAYER DAY is possible if properly advertised. That is why I need you to help me advertise WORLD PRAYER DAY. The date this event will take place is March 17 2010 3:00 pm. The reason for the year 2010 is that hopefully by that time everybody around the globe will have heard of WORLD PRAYER DAY. I know that because it is a worldwide event that means for some it will not be March 17, and it may mean praying in the early hours of the morning. For others it could mean praying late in the evening, but this is a small sacrifice to pay to be united in prayer globally. People can pray in their places of worship, or at home, or at work, it does not really matter.
Prayer is for everyone so everyone should try to pray. Remember we are all sinners.
Now I am asking you to help me advertise WORLD PRAYER DAY. This can be done by posting the info on other sites/forums. Or by telling family and friends and getting them to also forward the news. Remember to get the date time and year correct.
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« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2008, 05:19:26 AM » |
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Mr. Murphy, posting your title in all capitals is a violation of the Posting Rules, which obviously you did not read before making your first post. You may fix this within 24 hours, or your post my be moved to The Inferno.
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« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2008, 06:41:50 AM » |
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Mr. Murphy, posting your title in all capitals is a violation of the Posting Rules, which obviously you did not read before making your first post. You may fix this within 24 hours, or your post my be moved to The Inferno. And if I might add, a first post like this looks like spam. |
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Battle is the most magnificent competition in which a human being can indulge. It brings out all that is best; it removes all that is base. All men are afraid in battle. The coward is the one who lets his fear overcome his sense of duty. Duty is the essence of manhood
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« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2008, 07:34:44 AM » |
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I agree. I was tempted to just trash it based on that, but thought I would give him the benefit of the doubt. If you think we should just trash it as the mod of this area, I'm fine with it. I was feeling particularly generous this morning, but after dealing with the morning rush hour traffic, I'm not feeling so generous anymore.
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« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2008, 08:00:09 AM » |
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No hurry.....24hrs will come soon enough.
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Battle is the most magnificent competition in which a human being can indulge. It brings out all that is best; it removes all that is base. All men are afraid in battle. The coward is the one who lets his fear overcome his sense of duty. Duty is the essence of manhood
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« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2008, 12:54:41 PM » |
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I'd like to see the results of this experiment.
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« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2008, 01:36:30 PM » |
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I am very sorry for disobeying your rules, still hardly a hanging offence. I am asking you not to trash my first thread, because even though it reads as a statement, I think it will probably cause debate. Also you too can help me spread the news of WORLD PRAYER DAY.
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« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2008, 01:49:29 PM » |
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Debate eh?
Ok, how about instead of prayer, people try to do something that will actually have an effect?
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« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2008, 01:53:46 AM » |
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Prayer does have an effect. I don't mean to sound codescending, but I really do pity you if you don't realise the effect praying can have on your life.
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« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2008, 07:45:31 AM » |
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You don't mean to sound condescending? Sorry, but that is exactly how you sound. I would pity you a lot less if you actually attempt to back what you just said, instead of making unverifiable blanket statements.
And for your information, you can ask to not have your threads trashed all you want. If you break the rules they will be. If you don't they won't be. So unlike with prayer, all the responsibility here is yours.
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« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2008, 12:36:41 PM » |
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Prayer does have an effect. I don't mean to sound codescending, but I really do pity you if you don't realise the effect praying can have on your life.
Well, that depends what you mean. If you mean that an imaginary relationship with an imaginary being makes you feel all fuzzy inside, then I agree. But prayer will not solve the Kenyan crisis. It has been proven that intercessory prayer has no effect. The Templeton Foundation set up an experiment to test this. They had three groups of people (all of whom had the same illness): one was the control group, and were not prayed for, one was prayed for and not told, and one was prayed for and told about it. The results were as follows: those who were prayed for and not told showed no improvement over those who weren't prayed for at all. Those who were told they were being prayed for actually performed worse than the other two groups: a kind of "performance anxiety". |
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« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2008, 11:50:23 AM » |
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By conducting this experiment however would you not say in a way they were putting God to the test. In many faiths we are told not to test God in such a manner. There is also thousands of examples of cases were prayer has worked. I am also sorry biker dude if I sounded condescending when I said I pitied someone who does not have faith or believe in prayer, but that is exactly how I feel. I may sound condescending, but I don't mean to be.
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« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2008, 12:25:41 PM » |
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If prayer has any effect at all it is the placebo effect, which speaks volumes about prayer.
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« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2008, 12:52:19 PM » |
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Being a political forum, I am sure many will feel that problems are solved through the political process, not faith.
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« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2008, 05:40:14 PM » |
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Anyone familiar with the political process has probably turned to faith....
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Battle is the most magnificent competition in which a human being can indulge. It brings out all that is best; it removes all that is base. All men are afraid in battle. The coward is the one who lets his fear overcome his sense of duty. Duty is the essence of manhood
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