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Should Turkish women be able to wear head scarves while they go to school?
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« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2007, 07:40:17 PM » |
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Only if it doesn't cover up their whole face, I don't see the problem. I'm assuming you're meaning if they move to western countries, though. There are lots of muslim students at my old high school who would wear them and it wasn't a big deal at all.
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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2007, 09:00:45 PM » |
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In Turkey? Or here?
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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2007, 10:17:44 PM » |
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I don't know what anyone else's high school was like, but there was a Muslim girl at mine who wore a headscarf. Yarmulkes were also exempted from the restriction on hats and head coverings.
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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2007, 11:09:07 PM » |
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if you allow head scarves then you must allow yamakas then you must allow bandannas and hats...its just a slippery slope IMO. I don't know about where you live but in the US hats and bandannas are screaming for gang violence.
IMO its a no go...it you daughter needs to wear a head scarf then go to a private school that will allow it. Its just not manageable in the public system.
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« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2007, 12:30:26 AM » |
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if you allow head scarves then you must allow yamakas then you must allow bandannas and hats...its just a slippery slope IMO. I don't know about where you live but in the US hats and bandannas are screaming for gang violence.
IMO its a no go...it you daughter needs to wear a head scarf then go to a private school that will allow it. Its just not manageable in the public system.
Neo mate, There is a big difference from gang related and/or hats to a religion mandate. At least it is clearly delineated from my perspective. Warm regards Terry |
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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2007, 07:03:08 AM » |
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Should Turkish women be able to wear head scarves while they go to school?
I meant in Turkey. Sorry.  |
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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2007, 07:19:48 AM » |
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. Should Turkish women be able to wear head scarves while they go to school?
I meant in Turkey. Sorry. Hi Gojira, Hope you and your family are well. My answer to your thread still remains the same. I think of Turkey as sort of a bridge between the East and the West. Do Turks view Turkey that way. Correct me please if I am wrong!  Warmest regards Terry |
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« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2007, 07:48:07 AM » |
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Should Turkish women be able to wear head scarves while they go to school?
I meant in Turkey. Sorry. Hi Gojira, Hope you and your family are well. My answer to your thread still remains the same. I think of Turkey as sort of a bridge between the East and the West. Do Turks view Turkey that way. Correct me please if I am wrong! Warmest regards Terry Thank you Terry, I wish you the same! Turkey definately is the bridge between the East and West. And I think that this issue is of a much more broader issue; one that threatnes Turkey's secular government. Many believe that by allowing headscarves, Turkey becomes more threatned to become more of a Fundamentalist state as Islamic values become more intertwined in government institutions. However, I am a man of personal freedom, religion being part of those freedoms, and no one should be denied an education if they have a specific religious belief that may warrant them to be denied. However does this personal freedom have a direct or indirect effect on the nation? A direct effect no. No one gets hurt directly from one wearing a headscarf. However, the indirect effect may be that Turkey will lose their secular government. Yet my family has visited Turkey and has spoke with many. Believe it or not, whether a traditionalist or as a progressive, both believe in their government being secular. So I would say, let them wear their headscarves as should any other religious symbol that could be worn. As long as it doesn't directly effect anyone else. However, the indirect effects must be watched closely. One might say it probably would be better to not take the risk and ban them all together. But I have a heart and if I was placed in a Turkish women's shoes who was strong to her personal beleifs about her religion, I might say otherwise. |
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« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2007, 07:56:18 AM » |
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Should Turkish women be able to wear head scarves while they go to school?
I meant in Turkey. Sorry. Hi Gojira, Hope you and your family are well. My answer to your thread still remains the same. I think of Turkey as sort of a bridge between the East and the West. Do Turks view Turkey that way. Correct me please if I am wrong! Warmest regards Terry Thank you Terry, I wish you the same! Turkey definately is the bridge between the East and West. And I think that this issue is of a much more broader issue; one that threatnes Turkey's secular government. Many believe that by allowing headscarves, Turkey becomes more threatned to become more of a Fundamentalist state as Islamic values become more intertwined in government institutions. However, I am a man of personal freedom, religion being part of those freedoms, and no one should be denied an education if they have a specific religious belief that may warrant them to be denied. However does this personal freedom have a direct or indirect effect on the nation? A direct effect no. No one gets hurt directly from one wearing a headscarf. However, the indirect effect may be that Turkey will lose their secular government. Yet my family has visited Turkey and has spoke with many. Believe it or not, whether a traditionalist or as a progressive, both believe in their government being secular. So I would say, let them wear their headscarves as should any other religious symbol that could be worn. As long as it doesn't directly effect anyone else. However, the indirect effects must be watched closely. One might say it probably would be better to not take the risk and ban them all together. But I have a heart and if I was placed in a Turkish women's shoes who was strong to her personal beleifs about her religion, I might say otherwise. Wise words indeed Gojira! I look forward to more interaction with you. I am so glad you are on the Board, even if we have growing pains! Kind regards and respect Terry |
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« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2007, 12:27:50 PM » |
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If there are school rules against hats or scarves already no exception should be made.
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« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2007, 01:51:00 PM » |
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If there are school rules against hats or scarves already no exception should be made.
That would be sensible before joining a school and being presented and told that no religious attire either would be permitted... |
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« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2007, 02:21:08 PM » |
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If there are school rules against hats or scarves already no exception should be made.
Easy for you to say, your lively hood isn't determined by a piece of cloth over your head. |
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« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2007, 03:31:06 PM » |
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If there are school rules against hats or scarves already no exception should be made.
Easy for you to say, your lively hood isn't determined by a piece of cloth over your head. Absolutely Gojira, and more than that even. Faith.  Warmest regards Terry |
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« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2007, 08:04:58 PM » |
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Shouldn't ones religious beliefs be honoured and respected?
I am not sure as to why the women wear scarves for covering their heads but I think that regardless of where this is taking place that there should be respect up held to them.
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